Complete noob...
George Goodman
georgegoodman at gmail.com
Mon Aug 7 03:26:56 PDT 2006
Nick and Dave,
Thanks again...
> > If he *is* coming from Windows (or even Linux) then you can't really
> > blame him for being antsy about upgrading...
Ok, pavlov's dog ain't gont nothin on me, I NEED that patch 'cause
it's there - woof ;)
> Most security problems are configuration, not code, problems in
> OpenBSD.
Cool... errr... sh%$, no more excuses huh !
> I see some nice lady approriately named Rutkowska at Defcon rooted
> a Vista box.
Heh, viva vista... the vista fiasco is one of the reasons why I am
"allowed" to go to open source... don't knock it.
> I recommend printed matter. The O'Reilly "nutshell" series is pretty
> decent. GG's boss will be a good boss and cut him about $200 to go
> book-shopping.
The order is already in the mail (cool boss):
"Secure Architectures with OpenBSD" Brandon Palmer;
"Mastering FreeBSD and OpenBSD Security" Yanek Korff;
"Absolute OpenBSD: UNIX for the Practical Paranoid" Michael W. Lucas;
"Building Firewalls with OpenBSD and PF, 2nd Edition" Jacek Artymiak;
Should help me get my feet wet...
> It is vicious to start up X at boot time for the new user.
I already decided "no X" on the servers, unless someone can give me a
complelling reason to do it. Desktops are likely to be hardened Ubuntu
at this stage... still researching.
> Another pointer is the -a switch to man, which will cycle through
> all man pages for a given subject.
Thanks, it's in the notebook.
> The Korn shell (ksh(1)) is a somewhat expanded Bourne shell
> (sh(1)).
Guess I'll stick with that, since it's the default and the core dev's
no doubt have a good reason for that.
> Our original newbie is NOT going to be aware of a lot of subtleties
> of the sh(1) command line until they have bitten him, even the meaning
> of wildcards (such as that they are called "regular expressions" or
> "filename globbing" in unix, man regex, man glob) and the clever ways
> in which they can be abused.
I have a handle on some of this (regex) from programming perl etc.
> The naive will attempt to delete it with "rm -r" or by quoting it
> or otherwise goofing around. man rm for the right way.
Another one in the notebook, thanks.
> No vi? No unix.
I'm on to it, geez, this is not a minor undertaking :)
> There's a reason for that. And now an old grey applications programmer
> tells you: learn vi.
Hope it doesn't take till I'm old and grey to learn, gotta earn my
keep and don't think the boss will wait that long (he's a bit that way
already).
> > > Do you have X working yet? Do you have it working for *non-root*
> > > logins?
Why do I need it on a server... seems like it will just complicate things?
> BTW -- for GG -- one of the really nice things that OpenBSD has now
> is a man page for just about every configuration file found in /etc.
> man <name of file> usually is very interesting. This was a great idea.
Another one for the notebook, thanks!
GG.
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