jumping from ubuntu to OpenBSD

[Woodchuck]

On Mon, 13 Nov 2006, Jens Ropers wrote:

> > Also, you will discover that native java support is a true pain in
> > the butt to install and use.
> >
> > Because of licensing issues, you are more or less on your own with
> > java.  It's in the ports, and requires you sign ("click") an NDA
> > with sun.  There are no "approved" packages for installing java,
> > as far as I know.  This list will help with java, I'm no expert on
> > it, but I have gotten it installed.  Java's buggy and dumps core
> > sometimes.
> 
> The licensing problems are on their way out (unless you are a hard
> core BSD-license-only GPL-hater) and the bugginess state of affairs is
> likely to improve over time:
> 
> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20061113-8205.html

Yeah, how about that.

Just the day before the news I downloaded the 1.5 jdk etc under the
old Sun license, and the pig is still compiling and sucking in more
dependencies (mozilla is the latest), despite throwing a double cpu
1GHz PIII machine at the task) as we speak.  It managed to swell
(so far) the ports partition to 5 gigabytes.  (only two trips to
the "growfs" bar for me).  Talk about bloat. 

At least in future I'll be able to "let Joe do it" and download a
package for the jre, which is all I wanted from the @#$ thing.  I need
another way for Mozilla and Firefox to crash ;-)

Dave
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