From cryptreaper at gmail.com Wed Oct 1 16:11:06 2008 From: cryptreaper at gmail.com (Aaron S.) Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 19:11:06 +0500 Subject: Kdevelop Message-ID: Hi, I am sorry if this has already been asked, I am a newbie with *BSD. I installed OpenBSD 4.1 with KDE 3.5.6 a couple days ago (at the moment I don't have access to broadband and can't download 4.3 so I borrowed 4.1 cd from a friend). I have been unable to find kdevelop in the ports or packages. Can someone please tell me where to install kdevelop from? Thanks, Aaron. From stjs39 at yahoo.de Fri Oct 3 15:34:03 2008 From: stjs39 at yahoo.de (Juergen Scholten) Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 13:34:03 +0000 (GMT) Subject: OpenBSD based internet security gateway Message-ID: <42143.55679.qm@web24006.mail.ird.yahoo.com> hello, as an OpenBSD fan I'm using ComixWall by Soner Tari since a few weeks (www.comixwall.org). It is a complete free internet security gateway (ISG) based on OpenBSD maybe comparable with smoothwall etc. At the moment only for i386 and newer hardware because it takes some performance. My interest is, does anybody else have experience with it and what do think about it? Regards Juergen From stjs39 at yahoo.de Sat Oct 4 12:08:23 2008 From: stjs39 at yahoo.de (Juergen Scholten) Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 10:08:23 +0000 (GMT) Subject: OpenBSD based internet security gateway In-Reply-To: <4044CDF0-A834-4BE3-B813-025AE2702AE4@hevanet.com> Message-ID: <246149.90378.qm@web24002.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Hello Alan, thank you for your detailed answer. I will give ComixWall a chance, because it?s only for my home office and I have not to use a Linux solution. ;-) In terms of documentation, there exists a ComixWall42SAG.pdf under Downloads/ComixWall 4.2 Release (the last file). -Juergen --- Alan DeWitt schrieb am Sa, 4.10.2008: > Von: Alan DeWitt > Betreff: Re: OpenBSD based internet security gateway > An: "Juergen Scholten" > CC: Openbsd-newbies at sfobug.org > Datum: Samstag, 4. Oktober 2008, 7:48 > On Oct 3, 2008, at 6:34 AM, Juergen Scholten wrote: > > as an OpenBSD fan I'm using ComixWall by Soner > Tari since a few > > weeks (www.comixwall.org). > > It is a complete free internet security gateway (ISG) > based on > > OpenBSD maybe comparable with smoothwall etc. At the > moment only > > for i386 and newer hardware because it takes some > performance. > > My interest is, does anybody else have experience with > it and what > > do think about it? > > I have played around with it just a little bit, but I have > not looked > closely at the additional software as yet. I have not used > it in a > production environment. > > I love the *concept*. It's the sort of thing that has > the potential > to be easily deployed to a customer, with the possibility > of handing > the keys to a less skilled client to manage mostly for > themselves. > > Mr. Tari seems to be very respectful of the OpenBSD > community, and > his additional code is under a BSD license. Comixwall > insulates > potential OpenBSD users from having to actually learn much > of > anything, though, which is a big bummer in some ways even > while it's > an advantage in others. (See above.) > > The execution from what I have seen is promising. The web > interface > is well-designed visually and informative. The big > limitation I have > seen so far is poor documentation; for instance, it is not > altogether > clear that Comixwall is installed simply by adding the > included site > bundle at install time. The additional install script > itself does not > give very good feedback. (Both of these are probably due to > English > not being his native language and his presumed focus on the > gui > aspect.) The installer seems a little finicky, and the web > interface > seems a bit unstable. > > I have not looked closely at the settings to ensure > he's chosen > sensible defaults, and I have no idea how maintainable the > system > will turn out to be. Caveat emptor. > > So to sum up I think it's a great idea, and potentially > a great > product, that could use some more polish and developer > love. > > -Alan From alan.dewitt at gmail.com Sat Oct 4 07:48:15 2008 From: alan.dewitt at gmail.com (Alan DeWitt) Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 22:48:15 -0700 Subject: OpenBSD based internet security gateway In-Reply-To: <42143.55679.qm@web24006.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <42143.55679.qm@web24006.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4044CDF0-A834-4BE3-B813-025AE2702AE4@hevanet.com> On Oct 3, 2008, at 6:34 AM, Juergen Scholten wrote: > as an OpenBSD fan I'm using ComixWall by Soner Tari since a few > weeks (www.comixwall.org). > It is a complete free internet security gateway (ISG) based on > OpenBSD maybe comparable with smoothwall etc. At the moment only > for i386 and newer hardware because it takes some performance. > My interest is, does anybody else have experience with it and what > do think about it? I have played around with it just a little bit, but I have not looked closely at the additional software as yet. I have not used it in a production environment. I love the *concept*. It's the sort of thing that has the potential to be easily deployed to a customer, with the possibility of handing the keys to a less skilled client to manage mostly for themselves. Mr. Tari seems to be very respectful of the OpenBSD community, and his additional code is under a BSD license. Comixwall insulates potential OpenBSD users from having to actually learn much of anything, though, which is a big bummer in some ways even while it's an advantage in others. (See above.) The execution from what I have seen is promising. The web interface is well-designed visually and informative. The big limitation I have seen so far is poor documentation; for instance, it is not altogether clear that Comixwall is installed simply by adding the included site bundle at install time. The additional install script itself does not give very good feedback. (Both of these are probably due to English not being his native language and his presumed focus on the gui aspect.) The installer seems a little finicky, and the web interface seems a bit unstable. I have not looked closely at the settings to ensure he's chosen sensible defaults, and I have no idea how maintainable the system will turn out to be. Caveat emptor. So to sum up I think it's a great idea, and potentially a great product, that could use some more polish and developer love. -Alan From carloslugo at gmail.com Thu Oct 9 20:29:56 2008 From: carloslugo at gmail.com (Carlos Lugo) Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 14:29:56 -0400 Subject: WPA in 4.3 with ATH? Message-ID: Hello. I'm aware that WPA/2 support will be introduced to OpenBSD in the 4.4 release (a few weeks away?), but i'm curious as to whether or not support can be obtained while using 4.3. I currently have an OpenBSD 4.3 system built as a fw/gw between my modem and switch. Without going into too much detail, i'd like to move it and its messy cables from my living room to office using a D-LINK DWL-G520 B3 (ATH) wireless adapter to a WPA enabled access point (which would subsequently be connected to my modem). Until WPA is possible, this simply isn't an option (i live in a pretty large building in a metro city; i simply can't trust my internet connection to WEP). If WPA support isn't available until 4.4, is there any genuinely secure alternative to WEP/an open connection? Thanks -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.theapt.org/pipermail/openbsd-newbies/attachments/20081009/a895b7ba/attachment.html From phessler at theapt.org Thu Oct 9 23:26:19 2008 From: phessler at theapt.org (Peter Hessler) Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 23:26:19 +0200 Subject: WPA in 4.3 with ATH? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20081009212618.GG15053@gir.theapt.org> you could upgrade to 4.4 ( or a -current snapshot), or use ipsec. that'll keep you even more secure :) On 2008 Oct 09 (Thu) at 14:29:56 -0400 (-0400), Carlos Lugo wrote: :Hello. :I'm aware that WPA/2 support will be introduced to OpenBSD in the 4.4 :release (a few weeks away?), but i'm curious as to whether or not support :can be obtained while using 4.3. :I currently have an OpenBSD 4.3 system built as a fw/gw between my modem and :switch. Without going into too much detail, i'd like to move it and its :messy cables from my living room to office using a D-LINK DWL-G520 B3 (ATH) :wireless adapter to a WPA enabled access point (which would subsequently be :connected to my modem). :Until WPA is possible, this simply isn't an option (i live in a pretty large :building in a metro city; i simply can't trust my internet connection to :WEP). :If WPA support isn't available until 4.4, is there any genuinely secure :alternative to WEP/an open connection? : :Thanks :_______________________________________________ :Openbsd-newbies mailing list :Openbsd-newbies at sfobug.org :http://mailman.theapt.org/listinfo/openbsd-newbies -- To get something done, a committee should consist of no more than three men, two of them absent. From jus at krytosvirus.com Thu Oct 9 23:45:35 2008 From: jus at krytosvirus.com (Justin Krejci) Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 16:45:35 -0500 Subject: WPA in 4.3 with ATH? In-Reply-To: <20081009212618.GG15053@gir.theapt.org> References: <20081009212618.GG15053@gir.theapt.org> Message-ID: <005c01c92a58$5cdac6a0$e317a8c0@usicorp.usinternet.com> I second both suggestions. Another possibility is the openssh based VPN. I have always had interest in trying this technique but have never gotten around to it. Has anyone used this before? Looks like full VPN capabilities were added to openssh in version 4.3 according to http://www.openssh.com/txt/release-4.3 -----Original Message----- From: openbsd-newbies-bounces at sfobug.org [mailto:openbsd-newbies-bounces at sfobug.org] On Behalf Of Peter Hessler Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 4:26 PM To: Carlos Lugo Cc: openbsd-newbies at sfobug.org Subject: Re: WPA in 4.3 with ATH? you could upgrade to 4.4 ( or a -current snapshot), or use ipsec. that'll keep you even more secure :) On 2008 Oct 09 (Thu) at 14:29:56 -0400 (-0400), Carlos Lugo wrote: :Hello. :I'm aware that WPA/2 support will be introduced to OpenBSD in the 4.4 :release (a few weeks away?), but i'm curious as to whether or not support :can be obtained while using 4.3. :I currently have an OpenBSD 4.3 system built as a fw/gw between my modem and :switch. Without going into too much detail, i'd like to move it and its :messy cables from my living room to office using a D-LINK DWL-G520 B3 (ATH) :wireless adapter to a WPA enabled access point (which would subsequently be :connected to my modem). :Until WPA is possible, this simply isn't an option (i live in a pretty large :building in a metro city; i simply can't trust my internet connection to :WEP). :If WPA support isn't available until 4.4, is there any genuinely secure :alternative to WEP/an open connection? : :Thanks :_______________________________________________ :Openbsd-newbies mailing list :Openbsd-newbies at sfobug.org :http://mailman.theapt.org/listinfo/openbsd-newbies -- To get something done, a committee should consist of no more than three men, two of them absent. _______________________________________________ Openbsd-newbies mailing list Openbsd-newbies at sfobug.org http://mailman.theapt.org/listinfo/openbsd-newbies From phessler at theapt.org Thu Oct 9 23:48:11 2008 From: phessler at theapt.org ('Peter Hessler') Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 23:48:11 +0200 Subject: WPA in 4.3 with ATH? In-Reply-To: <005c01c92a58$5cdac6a0$e317a8c0@usicorp.usinternet.com> References: <20081009212618.GG15053@gir.theapt.org> <005c01c92a58$5cdac6a0$e317a8c0@usicorp.usinternet.com> Message-ID: <20081009214811.GH15053@gir.theapt.org> I've been using a ssh SOCKs tunel for some time. 'ssh -Dlocalhost:1080 ' then configure pidgin and firefox to use it as their SOCKS proxy. On 2008 Oct 09 (Thu) at 16:45:35 -0500 (-0500), Justin Krejci wrote: :I second both suggestions. : :Another possibility is the openssh based VPN. I have always had interest in :trying this technique but have never gotten around to it. Has anyone used :this before? : :Looks like full VPN capabilities were added to openssh in version 4.3 :according to :http://www.openssh.com/txt/release-4.3 : : :-----Original Message----- :From: openbsd-newbies-bounces at sfobug.org :[mailto:openbsd-newbies-bounces at sfobug.org] On Behalf Of Peter Hessler :Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 4:26 PM :To: Carlos Lugo :Cc: openbsd-newbies at sfobug.org :Subject: Re: WPA in 4.3 with ATH? : :you could upgrade to 4.4 ( or a -current snapshot), or use ipsec. :that'll keep you even more secure :) : : :On 2008 Oct 09 (Thu) at 14:29:56 -0400 (-0400), Carlos Lugo wrote: ::Hello. ::I'm aware that WPA/2 support will be introduced to OpenBSD in the 4.4 ::release (a few weeks away?), but i'm curious as to whether or not support ::can be obtained while using 4.3. ::I currently have an OpenBSD 4.3 system built as a fw/gw between my modem :and ::switch. Without going into too much detail, i'd like to move it and its ::messy cables from my living room to office using a D-LINK DWL-G520 B3 (ATH) ::wireless adapter to a WPA enabled access point (which would subsequently be ::connected to my modem). ::Until WPA is possible, this simply isn't an option (i live in a pretty :large ::building in a metro city; i simply can't trust my internet connection to ::WEP). ::If WPA support isn't available until 4.4, is there any genuinely secure ::alternative to WEP/an open connection? :: ::Thanks : ::_______________________________________________ ::Openbsd-newbies mailing list ::Openbsd-newbies at sfobug.org ::http://mailman.theapt.org/listinfo/openbsd-newbies : : :-- :To get something done, a committee should consist of no more than three :men, two of them absent. :_______________________________________________ :Openbsd-newbies mailing list :Openbsd-newbies at sfobug.org :http://mailman.theapt.org/listinfo/openbsd-newbies : -- History is curious stuff You'd think by now we had enough Yet the fact remains I fear They make more of it every year. From henders254 at gmail.com Fri Oct 10 02:01:41 2008 From: henders254 at gmail.com (Chris Henderson) Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 11:01:41 +1100 Subject: Installation - image of anther machine Message-ID: I'm installing OpenBSD 4.3-release on a new machine. Rather than installing everything from scratch, I'd like to take an image of another machine. This will save me a lot of time configuring everything by hand from scratch. The things I want in the new machine are the things that the old machine has, like: packages, compiled from ports Java & opera, users, .rc files, any /etc changes. Is this possible? Thanks. From sgeorge.ml at gmail.com Fri Oct 10 12:26:29 2008 From: sgeorge.ml at gmail.com (Siju George) Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 15:56:29 +0530 Subject: How Do you build xenocara Message-ID: Hi, Does Xenocara have a stable branch as well. If so how does one build Xenocara and install it after a cvs update? Thanks and Regards --Siju From josh at jggimi.homeip.net Fri Oct 10 11:39:31 2008 From: josh at jggimi.homeip.net (Josh Grosse) Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 05:39:31 -0400 Subject: Installation - image of anther machine In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20081010093930.GB11166@jggimi.homeip.net> On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 11:01:41AM +1100, Chris Henderson wrote: > I'm installing OpenBSD 4.3-release on a new machine. Rather than > installing everything from scratch, I'd like to take an image of > another machine. This will save me a lot of time configuring > everything by hand from scratch. The things I want in the new machine > are the things that the old machine has, like: packages, compiled from > ports Java & opera, users, .rc files, any /etc changes. > > Is this possible? Thanks. Of course it is. It's exactly the same as a disaster recovery, isn't it? And of course, you test your D/R procedures, don't you? :) The sequence is: 1) back up your existing system, 2) configure your new system, 3) restore the filesystems, 4) configure boot blocks, 5) reboot. 1) Backup of OpenBSD filesystems is best done by the dump(8) program as described in FAQ 14.9; the example there use tape devices. Backup may be done on other media -- external disk drives, over a network to another system, etc. Describe your backup media and someone may be able to give you specific advice. Other backup software that might be usable include tar(1), pax(1), cpio(1), dd(1) ... or 3rd party packages such as gtar, bacula, amanda, or external software like g4u. 2) Configuring your new system means configuring MBR data if your architecture uses it, via fdisk(8), configuring BSD partition via disklabel(8), and formatting them with newfs(8). One typically boots the ramdisk kernel from OpenBSD installation media, which may be on CD, diskette, hard drive, or network. If you don't know how to do this yourself, you could go through the installation scripts to the point of installing the filesets. 3) Restoration will depend on the method you use for backup. The ramdisk kernel includes dd, tar, pax, cpio, and restore(8). The latter will require a /tmp space to be mounted. If you use a 3rd party product, you may need to install OpenBSD and the 3rd party product before conducting your restoration, if it does not have a standalone D/R facility. 4) Making your restored system bootable requires installing boot blocks, and is architecture dependent. For i386/amd64, fdisk can install the first stage boot loader, and this should be done as part of step 2, above. On amd64 or i386, the second stage boot loader setup is done with the installboot(8) program. From phessler at theapt.org Fri Oct 10 12:28:29 2008 From: phessler at theapt.org (Peter Hessler) Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 12:28:29 +0200 Subject: How Do you build xenocara In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20081010102828.GK15053@gir.theapt.org> Xenocara needs to be in step with the main src tree. Yes, it is tagged the same was as src and ports. make sure to read /usr/xenocara/README, for building instructions. On 2008 Oct 10 (Fri) at 15:56:29 +0530 (+0530), Siju George wrote: :Hi, : :Does Xenocara have a stable branch as well. :If so how does one build Xenocara and install it after a cvs update? : :Thanks and Regards : :--Siju -- Weiler's Law: Nothing is impossible for the man who doesn't have to do it himself. From josh at jggimi.homeip.net Fri Oct 10 13:41:30 2008 From: josh at jggimi.homeip.net (Josh Grosse) Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 07:41:30 -0400 Subject: How Do you build xenocara In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20081010113932.M56940@jggimi.homeip.net> On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 15:56:29 +0530, Siju George wrote > Hi, > > Does Xenocara have a stable branch as well. It does. I am not in a place where I can confirm if there are any -stable patches in the tree for 4.3 or not. > If so how does one build Xenocara and install it after a cvs update? FAQ 5.5. From carloslugo at gmail.com Fri Oct 10 15:48:14 2008 From: carloslugo at gmail.com (Carlos Lugo) Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 09:48:14 -0400 Subject: WPA in 4.3 with ATH? In-Reply-To: <20081009212618.GG15053@gir.theapt.org> References: <20081009212618.GG15053@gir.theapt.org> Message-ID: When you say upgrade to 4.4, is there a pre-release version available? That would certainly be ideal. As far as ipsec, unless i'm missing something i don't think it would be relevant to my scenereo. I essentially need to connect my bsd firewall/gateway to my cable modem via a wireless access point. On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 5:26 PM, Peter Hessler wrote: > you could upgrade to 4.4 ( or a -current snapshot), or use ipsec. > that'll keep you even more secure :) > > > On 2008 Oct 09 (Thu) at 14:29:56 -0400 (-0400), Carlos Lugo wrote: > :Hello. > :I'm aware that WPA/2 support will be introduced to OpenBSD in the 4.4 > :release (a few weeks away?), but i'm curious as to whether or not support > :can be obtained while using 4.3. > :I currently have an OpenBSD 4.3 system built as a fw/gw between my modem > and > :switch. Without going into too much detail, i'd like to move it and its > :messy cables from my living room to office using a D-LINK DWL-G520 B3 > (ATH) > :wireless adapter to a WPA enabled access point (which would subsequently > be > :connected to my modem). > :Until WPA is possible, this simply isn't an option (i live in a pretty > large > :building in a metro city; i simply can't trust my internet connection to > :WEP). > :If WPA support isn't available until 4.4, is there any genuinely secure > :alternative to WEP/an open connection? > : > :Thanks > > :_______________________________________________ > :Openbsd-newbies mailing list > :Openbsd-newbies at sfobug.org > :http://mailman.theapt.org/listinfo/openbsd-newbies > > > -- > To get something done, a committee should consist of no more than three > men, two of them absent. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.theapt.org/pipermail/openbsd-newbies/attachments/20081010/b8329c74/attachment.html From henders254 at gmail.com Sat Oct 11 01:28:10 2008 From: henders254 at gmail.com (Chris Henderson) Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 16:28:10 -0700 Subject: Installation - image of anther machine In-Reply-To: <20081010093930.GB11166@jggimi.homeip.net> References: <20081010093930.GB11166@jggimi.homeip.net> Message-ID: On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 2:39 AM, Josh Grosse wrote: > 1) Backup of OpenBSD filesystems is best done by the dump(8) program as > described in FAQ 14.9; the example there use tape devices. Backup may be done > on other media -- external disk drives, over a network to another system, etc. > Describe your backup media and someone may be able to give you specific advice. > Other backup software that might be usable include tar(1), pax(1), cpio(1), > dd(1) ... or 3rd party packages such as gtar, bacula, amanda, or external > software like g4u. At the moment I have a Vista computer where I would like to dump the OpenBSD image. The OpenBSD box has only one sinlge partiton (/) of 80GB. I can ssh to the OBSD box via putty. But I don't have samba running. How can I dump the image to the Vista box? If this is not possible, I can install OBSD 4.3-release on my new machine and NFS moount the new machine to the old one and then dump the image there. Also, my old machine has only one partition (/) and I am planning to have multiple partitions (/, /var/, /tmp, /usr/ etc.) in my new machine - is this going to cause any issue with the dump and restore? Thanks. From tony at servacorp.com Sat Oct 11 09:53:12 2008 From: tony at servacorp.com (Tony Abernethy) Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 02:53:12 -0500 Subject: Installation - image of anther machine In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Chris Henderson wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 2:39 AM, Josh Grosse > wrote: > > 1) Backup of OpenBSD filesystems is best done by the > dump(8) program as > > described in FAQ 14.9; the example there use tape devices. > Backup may be done > > on other media -- external disk drives, over a network to > another system, etc. > > Describe your backup media and someone may be able to give > you specific advice. > > Other backup software that might be usable include tar(1), > pax(1), cpio(1), > > dd(1) ... or 3rd party packages such as gtar, bacula, > amanda, or external > > software like g4u. > > At the moment I have a Vista computer where I would like to dump the > OpenBSD image. > The OpenBSD box has only one sinlge partiton (/) of 80GB. I can ssh to > the OBSD box via putty. > But I don't have samba running. How can I dump the image to the Vista > box? If this is not possible, > I can install OBSD 4.3-release on my new machine and NFS moount the > new machine to the old one > and then dump the image there. > > Also, my old machine has only one partition (/) and I am planning to > have multiple partitions (/, /var/, /tmp, /usr/ etc.) in my new > machine - is this going to cause any issue with the dump and restore? > > Thanks. I assume the old machine has a single 80GB partition and you are using only some of it, say 20GB (df -h will show disk usage) I assume the new machine has Vista, much larger disk and you do not intend/want to keep anything on that disk I assume the new machine has different hardware: network etc I assume that both machines are 32-bit x86 To be aware of, when you copy things from one place to another: There are things like /dev/zero and /dev/null where a simple straight-forward copy will not do anything you want. Looks like (to me) dump/restore is for preserving partitions and you want to change the partitioning. If there is enough free space on the old machine, something like tar -czf /home/root.tgz / On the new machine, install and partition MAKE A COPY IN A SAFE PLACE (like /home/etc) of at least /etc/hostname.* these are the network interfaces /etc/fstab this has what partition is where --- vital Check for any other vital configuration (ls -lrt) Somehow/anyhow, get the tarball from the old machine untar the tarball (cd / ; tar -xzf /home/root.tgz) get back the vital files from /home/etc or wherever that the last step wrote over. There are many variations that will work Me, I'd set up rsync on both sides and then copy over "everything" (with a few judicious --exclude=...) (might want to do /etc first and very very carefully) (fun&games with users and groups and permissions) There should be people on this list that actually know what they are talking about. Flames invited. From josh at jggimi.homeip.net Sat Oct 11 15:10:35 2008 From: josh at jggimi.homeip.net (Josh Grosse) Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 09:10:35 -0400 Subject: Installation - image of anther machine In-Reply-To: References: <20081010093930.GB11166@jggimi.homeip.net> Message-ID: <20081011131035.GA9906@jggimi.homeip.net> On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 04:28:10PM -0700, Chris Henderson wrote: > At the moment I have a Vista computer where I would like to dump the > OpenBSD image. > The OpenBSD box has only one sinlge partiton (/) of 80GB. I can ssh to > the OBSD box via putty. > But I don't have samba running. How can I dump the image to the Vista > box? If this is not possible, As with the myriad choices available to you for backup and restore, you could install and configure samba, or, you could install and configure sharity-light. So now you've backed up. How do you plan to restore? Obviously, your restoring system will have to be an already-running OpenBSD system with either of these two packages installed. You won't be able to use the ramdisk kernel for restore. There are alternatives to using Microsoft Networking... which I will offer, but first this gives me an opportunity to discuss backup/restore situations where 3rd party package installs are *required* to conduct a restore. When you do this, your restoration technique must not overlay the OpenBSD system you are running. So if you choose one of these methods, you must consider how you will restore your running system. There are many possible ways to do this, but *all* the choices may be beyond a newbie's skill set to execute. Options include configuring the rescue system on an unused partition letter, or restoring into partitions which will have partition letters altered after restore completes, or even installing the rescue system on a USB memory stick or USB hard drive, assuming your new system's BIOS can boot a USB device. Regardless of the technique, all of them require a high level of administrative skill. In particular, skill with manually installing boot blocks. Alternatives to using MS Networking merely require installing non-Microsoft networking software on Vista. e.g.: an FTP server, an NFS server, or an SSH server. > I can install OBSD 4.3-release on my new machine and NFS moount the > new machine to the old one > and then dump the image there. Your restore would then require the same level of skill as mentioned for third party packages -- you cannot overlay a running OpenBSD system during restore. The ramdisk kernel does not include NFS. And if you do this, why is Vista even involved? Just back up your running system over the network to your new system. But, your new system will still need to be a running OpenBSD system, as described above. The only networking tool included with the ramdisk kernel is the FTP client. > Also, my old machine has only one partition (/) and I am planning to > have multiple partitions (/, /var/, /tmp, /usr/ etc.) in my new > machine - is this going to cause any issue with the dump and restore? These tools are designed to back up and restore OpenBSD partitions. They can back up and restore subsets of partitions, so you could still use them, but it might complicate your procedures or possibly confuse you; if you've never used them, practice with them before committing yourself. How would *I* do this? Assuming your new system is a single-hard-drive system, I would install OpenBSD on a USB device, and boot it, then conduct the restore to hard drive, keeping the Vista machine entirely out of the scenario. I might use Vista as my backup server for the future, though, as long as offline storage (optical, or external USB drive) were available too. From josh at jggimi.homeip.net Sat Oct 11 15:11:54 2008 From: josh at jggimi.homeip.net (Josh Grosse) Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 09:11:54 -0400 Subject: Installation - image of anther machine In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20081011131154.GB9906@jggimi.homeip.net> On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 02:53:12AM -0500, Tony Abernethy wrote: > I assume the new machine has Vista, much larger disk > and you do not intend/want to keep anything on that disk That's not how I read his post; it looked to me like the Vista platform was a 3rd platform. From fbax at sympatico.ca Sat Oct 11 15:48:50 2008 From: fbax at sympatico.ca (Frank Bax) Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 09:48:50 -0400 Subject: Installation - image of anther machine In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <48F0AEC2.8010801@sympatico.ca> Chris Henderson wrote: > I'm installing OpenBSD 4.3-release on a new machine. Rather than > installing everything from scratch, I'd like to take an image of > another machine. This will save me a lot of time configuring > everything by hand from scratch. The things I want in the new machine > are the things that the old machine has, like: packages, compiled from > ports Java & opera, users, .rc files, any /etc changes. > > Is this possible? Thanks. I did something like this a couple of times. After reading FAQ 14.1,14.2,14.3,14.6,14.7 and 14.8 (maybe more); I physically install both disks in the same computer; then boot into single user mode. I used cpio to transfer system from one disk to another; then moved new disk back to new system. I've read that a disk's geometry can be different in different computers, which can cause problems; but I've not encountered this issue. Test the procedure first (perhaps more than once) with two disks that can be trashed; in case you copy the wrong way the first time. From tbodzar at gmail.com Mon Oct 13 11:55:51 2008 From: tbodzar at gmail.com (Tomas Bodzar) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 11:55:51 +0200 Subject: WPA in 4.3 with ATH? Message-ID: <48F31B27.8060309@gmail.com> And what about authpf base wifi AP?You don't need care about WEP/WPA. http://www.bsdly.net/~peter/pf.html chapter : An open,yet tightly guarded wireless network with authpf From tbodzar at gmail.com Mon Oct 13 12:48:25 2008 From: tbodzar at gmail.com (Tomas Bodzar) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:48:25 +0200 Subject: Xbox 360 blocking, parental control Message-ID: <48F32779.7020300@gmail.com> $ cat /etc/pf.conf block all it's enough for this situation,when someone run out of control.He can play local games ofcourse.I think,that he has better things to work like learning to school or something similar. From bsd4me at cableone.net Wed Oct 15 04:52:42 2008 From: bsd4me at cableone.net (Michael) Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 20:52:42 -0600 Subject: 4.4 Message-ID: <48F55AFA.5080505@cableone.net> Just saying that I got my 4.4 cd package today. Thank-you developers and all else involved :) Mike From syelsdne at cableone.net Wed Oct 15 04:28:27 2008 From: syelsdne at cableone.net (Michael) Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 20:28:27 -0600 Subject: 4.4 Message-ID: <48F5554B.2020707@cableone.net> Just saying that I got my 4.4 cd package today. Thank-you developers and all else involved :) Mike From carloslugo at gmail.com Fri Oct 17 16:19:49 2008 From: carloslugo at gmail.com (Carlos Lugo) Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 10:19:49 -0400 Subject: Estimated time between ordering and receiving CD set? Message-ID: I'm thinking about ordering 4.4 to get it before November 1st. I'm aware that some people have recieved their disk set already, despite the official release date of Nov. 1. Does anyone know how long, roughly, i could expect to wait after ordering before receiving the diskset to Philadelphia, PA (US)? I'm wondering whether it's worth it (i'd rather donate in other ways-- like purchasing teeshirts-- if it's not). Thanks -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.theapt.org/pipermail/openbsd-newbies/attachments/20081017/9acbc229/attachment.html From phessler at theapt.org Fri Oct 17 16:24:25 2008 From: phessler at theapt.org (Peter Hessler) Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 16:24:25 +0200 Subject: Estimated time between ordering and receiving CD set? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20081017142425.GD15053@gir.theapt.org> Once the cds are delivered to the two stores (Intl, and EU), they ship them out in the order of preorder. Sadly, tee-shirt sales do *not* give any money back to the project. The associated costs with them prohibit that. On the other hand, they are a great way to protect the cd case (less of an issue with the dvd-case style), and are a stylish way to promote the OpenBSD project to people you see on a daily basis. The best way to give money to the project is a pure donation. Of course, you don't get the super-cool stickers that way. On 2008 Oct 17 (Fri) at 10:19:49 -0400 (-0400), Carlos Lugo wrote: :I'm thinking about ordering 4.4 to get it before November 1st. I'm aware :that some people have recieved their disk set already, despite the official :release date of Nov. 1. :Does anyone know how long, roughly, i could expect to wait after ordering :before receiving the diskset to Philadelphia, PA (US)? :I'm wondering whether it's worth it (i'd rather donate in other ways-- like :purchasing teeshirts-- if it's not). : :Thanks -- I have made this letter longer than usual because I lack the time to make it shorter. -- Blaise Pascal From bsd4me at cableone.net Thu Oct 23 16:26:03 2008 From: bsd4me at cableone.net (Michael) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 08:26:03 -0600 Subject: problem with 4.4 installboot Message-ID: <4900897B.7050803@cableone.net> I have been trying to install 4.4 on a previous 4.3 partition, but keep getting this message after installation: installboot: broken MBR And then when booting from the hd, all I get is: ERR M Thinking I did something wrong, I tried installing 4.4 again and got the same response. I then tried just upgrading and got the same response. Knowing that 4.3 installed and ran fine, I grabbed that cd and installed 4.3. It installed just fine, so I used my backup files and got 4.3 the way I use it and let it go for some time. This morning I tried installing 4.4 again and got the same ol problem again. I'm not on the misc maillist at the moment, but have checked marc for anybody else having this problem. If memory serves me correctly, I've been running OpenBSD on this machine since about 4.2 with no problems. My homebrewed computer is: 1.2 ghz Duron, 256 megs ram, radeon 7000 video and soundblaster live sound card. I have Windows on here for the dreaded emails with pps files, linux to run flash and other nonsense. I try to keep my OpenBSD system clean ;) Thanks for any help. btw- would it help if I rejoined misc and sent this to them also? From josh at jggimi.homeip.net Thu Oct 23 19:16:14 2008 From: josh at jggimi.homeip.net (Josh Grosse) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 13:16:14 -0400 Subject: problem with 4.4 installboot In-Reply-To: <4900897B.7050803@cableone.net> References: <4900897B.7050803@cableone.net> Message-ID: <20081023165609.M23076@jggimi.homeip.net> On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 08:26:03 -0600, Michael wrote > I have been trying to install 4.4 on a previous 4.3 partition, but keep > getting this message after installation: > installboot: broken MBR > And then when booting from the hd, all I get is: ERR M ERR M is produced by biosboot(8) (the Partition Boot Record, or PBR) when it cannot locate the second stage bootloader. This means that: 1. The BIOS found the MBR program on disk. 2. The MBR successfully found the PBR (biosboot) 3. The PBR failed to find a the second stage boot loader program, by default stored on the root partition as /boot. This is the program that issues the "boot>" prompt, and loads the BSD kernel. This problem can be caused by failing to run installboot(8), or failing to run it properly. It may also happen if you move or erase the second stage boot loader (/boot, usually). If you used the install or update script to get to 4.4, then installboot should have been properly executed. If afterwards, you rm'ed /boot or moved the file, this might be why you're seeing the problem. Other possibilities include copying or relocating the OpenBSD data from one drive to another or to a different location. Any time the LBA (sector number) of /boot is changed, installboot must be rerun. No matter the reason, it is repairable. To repair (assumes the hard drive is wd0, change as appropriate): Step 1) Boot 4.4 installation media, select the shell at the Install/Upgrade/Shell prompt. Step 2) Mount your "a" partition as /mnt: # mount /dev/wd0a /mnt Step 3) Ensure the second stage boot loader is stored in /mnt/boot: # cp -p /usr/mdec/boot /mnt/boot Step 4) Rerun installboot, installing a new biosboot that points to /mnt/boot: # /usr/mdec/installboot -v /mnt/boot /usr/mdec/biosboot wd0 Step 5) Remove the install media, and issue: # reboot > btw- would it help if I rejoined misc and sent this to them also? You should rejoin misc@, but for keeping up with the social and technical aspects of the project. I think we can get you through this technical hurdle here on the newbies list. :) From bsd4me at cableone.net Thu Oct 23 19:01:13 2008 From: bsd4me at cableone.net (Michael) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 11:01:13 -0600 Subject: problem with 4.4 installboot In-Reply-To: <4900897B.7050803@cableone.net> References: <4900897B.7050803@cableone.net> Message-ID: <4900ADD9.2090007@cableone.net> Michael wrote: > I have been trying to install 4.4 on a previous 4.3 partition, but keep > getting this message after installation: > installboot: broken MBR > And then when booting from the hd, all I get is: ERR M > > Thinking I did something wrong, I tried installing 4.4 again and got the > same response. I then tried just upgrading and got the same response. > Knowing that 4.3 installed and ran fine, I grabbed that cd and installed > 4.3. It installed just fine, so I used my backup files and got 4.3 the > way I use it and let it go for some time. This morning I tried > installing 4.4 again and got the same ol problem again. > > I'm not on the misc maillist at the moment, but have checked marc for > anybody else having this problem. If memory serves me correctly, I've > been running OpenBSD on this machine since about 4.2 with no problems. > > My homebrewed computer is: 1.2 ghz Duron, 256 megs ram, radeon 7000 > video and soundblaster live sound card. > I have Windows on here for the dreaded emails with pps files, linux to > run flash and other nonsense. I try to keep my OpenBSD system clean ;) > > Thanks for any help. > btw- would it help if I rejoined misc and sent this to them also? > _______________________________________________ > Openbsd-newbies mailing list > Openbsd-newbies at sfobug.org > http://mailman.theapt.org/listinfo/openbsd-newbies > > I should make one thing clear that I just noticed about my post. Just the OpenBSD partition won't boot. Other systems boot fine. I use Air-Boot for boot manager (which I have used for years). From josh at jggimi.homeip.net Thu Oct 23 20:59:40 2008 From: josh at jggimi.homeip.net (Josh Grosse) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:59:40 -0400 Subject: problem with 4.4 installboot In-Reply-To: <4900ADD9.2090007@cableone.net> References: <4900897B.7050803@cableone.net> <4900ADD9.2090007@cableone.net> Message-ID: <20081023185551.M46873@jggimi.homeip.net> On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 11:01:13 -0600, Michael wrote > I should make one thing clear that I just noticed about my post. > Just the OpenBSD partition won't boot. Other systems boot fine. > I use Air-Boot for boot manager (which I have used for years). Did you miss my e-mail response to your original post? As described within it, your "ERR M" message is produced by biosboot(8), which is installed in the PBR (the first sector of the OpenBSD MBR partition). Your boot manager had already passed control to it. If you missed it, ERR M means that biosboot did not find a valid second stage boot loader (/boot) via the inode passed at installboot time. The e-mail contained step-by-step reparation instructions, also. From bsd4me at cableone.net Thu Oct 23 21:23:28 2008 From: bsd4me at cableone.net (Michael) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 13:23:28 -0600 Subject: problem with 4.4 installboot In-Reply-To: <20081023165609.M23076@jggimi.homeip.net> References: <4900897B.7050803@cableone.net> <20081023165609.M23076@jggimi.homeip.net> Message-ID: <4900CF30.4010007@cableone.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://mailman.theapt.org/pipermail/openbsd-newbies/attachments/20081023/b7f78261/attachment.html From josh at jggimi.homeip.net Thu Oct 23 21:49:40 2008 From: josh at jggimi.homeip.net (Josh Grosse) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:49:40 -0400 Subject: problem with 4.4 installboot In-Reply-To: <4900CF30.4010007@cableone.net> References: <4900897B.7050803@cableone.net> <20081023165609.M23076@jggimi.homeip.net> <4900CF30.4010007@cableone.net> Message-ID: <20081023193333.M50823@jggimi.homeip.net> On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 13:23:28 -0600, Michael wrote > Thanks Josh. It worked "kinda" ;) > I printed your directions and followed them exactly, but after runningstep 4, I got the same "installboot: broken MBR" problem. > I went aheadand rebooted the hd to make sure, and sure enough, I got the ERR M. > I might get in trouble here, but I thought to myself that if 4.3installs fine, why not try your directions with the 4.3 cd. > I did, and 4.4 now boots perfectly. For i386 and amd64, none of the software involved --? installboot, biosboot, and boot --? have had any changes between 4.3 and 4.4.? So using the older disc is fine. > Guess my copy of 4.4 may be bad? Everything else seems to haveinstalled just fine. It's possible, but unlikely.? Why unlikely?? If one were bad, they're probably all bad, as AFAIK these are pressed, not burned. And, this is the first problem of this type I'd seen reported; lots of folks have received their CDs already. :) I didn't order a set this time around, so I cannot examine the CDs m'self.? If you wish, you can e-mail me a copy of bsd.rd from the disc you received, and I can take a look at the files in the ramdisk kernel, comparing 'em with my own 4.4-release builds.? You'll find bsd.rd on the applicable disc in /4.4/.? Hint:? don't cc the list. :) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.theapt.org/pipermail/openbsd-newbies/attachments/20081023/8e9410ef/attachment.html From webmaster at bennettconstruction.us Thu Oct 23 18:59:18 2008 From: webmaster at bennettconstruction.us (Chris Bennett) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 11:59:18 -0500 Subject: problem with 4.4 installboot In-Reply-To: <4900897B.7050803@cableone.net> References: <4900897B.7050803@cableone.net> Message-ID: <4900AD66.10605@bennettconstruction.us> Try installing GAG after installing 4.4 GAG works great off of a CD, a floppy or on the hard drive. It will allow you to boot off of various partitions and more than one hard drive If that doesn't work, send more info like a dmesg and how you have all these OS's laid out Misc is a better source of info for most problems, but this is an OK list to use for stuff like this Michael wrote: > I have been trying to install 4.4 on a previous 4.3 partition, but keep > getting this message after installation: > installboot: broken MBR > And then when booting from the hd, all I get is: ERR M > > Thinking I did something wrong, I tried installing 4.4 again and got the > same response. I then tried just upgrading and got the same response. > Knowing that 4.3 installed and ran fine, I grabbed that cd and installed > 4.3. It installed just fine, so I used my backup files and got 4.3 the > way I use it and let it go for some time. This morning I tried > installing 4.4 again and got the same ol problem again. > > I'm not on the misc maillist at the moment, but have checked marc for > anybody else having this problem. If memory serves me correctly, I've > been running OpenBSD on this machine since about 4.2 with no problems. > > My homebrewed computer is: 1.2 ghz Duron, 256 megs ram, radeon 7000 > video and soundblaster live sound card. > I have Windows on here for the dreaded emails with pps files, linux to > run flash and other nonsense. I try to keep my OpenBSD system clean ;) > > Thanks for any help. > btw- would it help if I rejoined misc and sent this to them also? > _______________________________________________ > Openbsd-newbies mailing list > Openbsd-newbies at sfobug.org > http://mailman.theapt.org/listinfo/openbsd-newbies > > From josh at jggimi.homeip.net Fri Oct 24 13:27:52 2008 From: josh at jggimi.homeip.net (Josh Grosse) Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 07:27:52 -0400 Subject: problem with 4.4 installboot In-Reply-To: <20081024093242.GA9502@jggimi.homeip.net> References: <4900897B.7050803@cableone.net> <20081023165609.M23076@jggimi.homeip.net> <4900CF30.4010007@cableone.net> <20081023193333.M50823@jggimi.homeip.net> <4900D812.2040407@cableone.net> <20081024093242.GA9502@jggimi.homeip.net> Message-ID: <20081024111110.M1287@jggimi.homeip.net> For Michael, and those on the Newbies-list following his installboot problem: He sent me his bsd.rd, and I examined the biosboot and second stage boot loader, and ran a test install with it, too. No trouble was found. AFAICT, there is no problem with his CD image. Because biosboot was installed and executing properly ("ERR M" won't be produced without that), and the second stage boot loader not only had the proper magic number in it's first sector (0x7F "ELF"), and worked properly in my test install, I now suspect a BIOS limitation reaching the disk sectors containing the second stage boot loader (/boot). Prior to OpenBSD 3.5, there was a software limitation requiring /boot be located within the first 8.4GB of the hard drive. However, BIOS limitations (such as 504MB, 2GB, 4GB, 8.4GB, 32GB, 64GB, etc.) are the most likely reason for the problem. It is my guess -- it's just a guess -- that each time a ramdisk kernel copies /usr/mdec/boot to the hard drive's /boot, it's just luck where the LBAs end up residing; sometimes below the BIOS limit, sometimes, unluckily above. I've asked Michael to share the starting and ending LBAs of his "a" partition; it may cross one of these boundaries of his hard drive. From bsd4me at cableone.net Fri Oct 24 14:52:20 2008 From: bsd4me at cableone.net (Michael) Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 06:52:20 -0600 Subject: problem with 4.4 installboot In-Reply-To: <20081024111110.M1287@jggimi.homeip.net> References: <4900897B.7050803@cableone.net> <20081023165609.M23076@jggimi.homeip.net> <4900CF30.4010007@cableone.net> <20081023193333.M50823@jggimi.homeip.net> <4900D812.2040407@cableone.net> <20081024093242.GA9502@jggimi.homeip.net> <20081024111110.M1287@jggimi.homeip.net> Message-ID: <4901C504.6050102@cableone.net> Josh Grosse wrote: > For Michael, and those on the Newbies-list following his installboot problem: > > He sent me his bsd.rd, and I examined the biosboot and second stage boot > loader, and ran a test install with it, too. No trouble was found. AFAICT, > there is no problem with his CD image. > > Because biosboot was installed and executing properly ("ERR M" won't be > produced without that), and the second stage boot loader not only had the > proper magic number in it's first sector (0x7F "ELF"), and worked properly in > my test install, I now suspect a BIOS limitation reaching the disk sectors > containing the second stage boot loader (/boot). Prior to OpenBSD 3.5, there > was a software limitation requiring /boot be located within the first 8.4GB of > the hard drive. However, BIOS limitations (such as 504MB, 2GB, 4GB, 8.4GB, > 32GB, 64GB, etc.) are the most likely reason for the problem. > > It is my guess -- it's just a guess -- that each time a ramdisk kernel copies > /usr/mdec/boot to the hard drive's /boot, it's just luck where the LBAs end up > residing; sometimes below the BIOS limit, sometimes, unluckily above. > > I've asked Michael to share the starting and ending LBAs of his "a" partition; > it may cross one of these boundaries of his hard drive. > > I think I have all this right from fdisk and disklabel: 40 gig hd with 78125000 sectors A6 starts 12546765 size 13350015 for 25896780 "a" partition starts 12546765 and ends 13366080 bios reads my 120 gig hd just fine, so I may try installing 4.4 on it today to see what happens. I also have an older IBM 350mhz machine I may try also (if time allows today). Thanks Josh for your help. Much appreciated :) From josh at jggimi.homeip.net Fri Oct 24 15:17:35 2008 From: josh at jggimi.homeip.net (Josh Grosse) Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 09:17:35 -0400 Subject: problem with 4.4 installboot In-Reply-To: <4901C504.6050102@cableone.net> References: <4900897B.7050803@cableone.net> <20081023165609.M23076@jggimi.homeip.net> <4900CF30.4010007@cableone.net> <20081023193333.M50823@jggimi.homeip.net> <4900D812.2040407@cableone.net> <20081024093242.GA9502@jggimi.homeip.net> <20081024111110.M1287@jggimi.homeip.net> <4901C504.6050102@cableone.net> Message-ID: <20081024130211.M61281@jggimi.homeip.net> On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 06:52:20 -0600, Michael wrote > I think I have all this right from fdisk and disklabel: > 40 gig hd with 78125000 sectors 78,125,000 512-byte sectors is 40,000,000,000 bytes. That's 40 "marketing" gigabytes, or 37.25 "engineering" GB (obtained by dividing 40 billion by 1,024 three times). > A6 starts 12546765 size 13350015 for 25896780 The MBR partition begins 5.9GB from the start of the hard drive, and is 12.35GB in size. > "a" partition starts 12546765 and ends 13366080 The root partition begins 5.9GB from the start of the hard drive, and is 400MB. It does not cross any BIOS limitation boundary I am *aware* of. So much for this guess. As for CHS geometry: if your hard drive electronics is reporting 63 sectors per track and 255 tracks per cylinder, which is common with modern IDE/ATA drives, then there is no obvious CHS geometry problem, either, as your "a" partition starts on at the beginning of cylinder 780 and is exactly 51 cylinders in size. The only other thing I can think of is a possible CHS geometry other than 63/255. The fdisk program will tell you if a different geometry is used ... but based on how nicely things line up at 63/255, I doubt this is it. > bios reads my 120 gig hd just fine, so I may try installing 4.4 on it > today to see what happens. I also have an older IBM 350mhz machine I > may try also (if time allows today). > > Thanks Josh for your help. Much appreciated :) I didn't solve the problem, but I did confirm your CD is ok. I'm now thinking better brains will be more helpful. Time to consider posting to misc at . I recommend posting on or after November 1, once 4.4 support begins. From bsd4me at cableone.net Fri Oct 24 15:24:08 2008 From: bsd4me at cableone.net (Michael) Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 07:24:08 -0600 Subject: problem with 4.4 installboot In-Reply-To: <20081024130211.M61281@jggimi.homeip.net> References: <4900897B.7050803@cableone.net> <20081023165609.M23076@jggimi.homeip.net> <4900CF30.4010007@cableone.net> <20081023193333.M50823@jggimi.homeip.net> <4900D812.2040407@cableone.net> <20081024093242.GA9502@jggimi.homeip.net> <20081024111110.M1287@jggimi.homeip.net> <4901C504.6050102@cableone.net> <20081024130211.M61281@jggimi.homeip.net> Message-ID: <4901CC78.80206@cableone.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.theapt.org/pipermail/openbsd-newbies/attachments/20081024/8098c9bd/attachment.html From josh at jggimi.homeip.net Fri Oct 24 15:40:54 2008 From: josh at jggimi.homeip.net (Josh Grosse) Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 09:40:54 -0400 Subject: problem with 4.4 installboot In-Reply-To: <4901CC78.80206@cableone.net> References: <4900897B.7050803@cableone.net> <20081023165609.M23076@jggimi.homeip.net> <4900CF30.4010007@cableone.net> <20081023193333.M50823@jggimi.homeip.net> <4900D812.2040407@cableone.net> <20081024093242.GA9502@jggimi.homeip.net> <20081024111110.M1287@jggimi.homeip.net> <4901C504.6050102@cableone.net> <20081024130211.M61281@jggimi.homeip.net> <4901CC78.80206@cableone.net> Message-ID: <20081024133330.M63728@jggimi.homeip.net> On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 07:24:08 -0600, Michael wrote >Thanks for your help. Something I don't understand is how come I gotthe problem after doing 3 fresh installs and > then trying to "upgrade",but as soon as I followed your directions using my 4.3 cd, installbootworked fine? I am clueless.? My last guess -- sector location and the BIOS -- turned out to be wrong.? Googling for hard disk size and BIOS can find all sorts of architectural limitations that have been reached throughout the x86 architecture's history?-- e.g.: ??? http://www.storagereview.com/guide2000/ref/hdd/bios/size.html But unfortunately, none are near 6GB, where your "a" partition lives. :( -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.theapt.org/pipermail/openbsd-newbies/attachments/20081024/dedb8c86/attachment.html From bsd4me at cableone.net Fri Oct 24 15:46:05 2008 From: bsd4me at cableone.net (Michael) Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 07:46:05 -0600 Subject: problem with 4.4 installboot In-Reply-To: <20081024133330.M63728@jggimi.homeip.net> References: <4900897B.7050803@cableone.net> <20081023165609.M23076@jggimi.homeip.net> <4900CF30.4010007@cableone.net> <20081023193333.M50823@jggimi.homeip.net> <4900D812.2040407@cableone.net> <20081024093242.GA9502@jggimi.homeip.net> <20081024111110.M1287@jggimi.homeip.net> <4901C504.6050102@cableone.net> <20081024130211.M61281@jggimi.homeip.net> <4901CC78.80206@cableone.net> <20081024133330.M63728@jggimi.homeip.net> Message-ID: <4901D19D.8040600@cableone.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.theapt.org/pipermail/openbsd-newbies/attachments/20081024/6f9b8e6f/attachment.html From bsd4me at cableone.net Fri Oct 24 22:23:53 2008 From: bsd4me at cableone.net (Michael) Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 14:23:53 -0600 Subject: problem with 4.4 installboot In-Reply-To: <4901D19D.8040600@cableone.net> References: <4900CF30.4010007@cableone.net> <20081023193333.M50823@jggimi.homeip.net> <4900D812.2040407@cableone.net> <20081024093242.GA9502@jggimi.homeip.net> <20081024111110.M1287@jggimi.homeip.net> <4901C504.6050102@cableone.net> <20081024130211.M61281@jggimi.homeip.net> <4901CC78.80206@cableone.net> <20081024133330.M63728@jggimi.homeip.net> <4901D19D.8040600@cableone.net> Message-ID: <20081024202353.GA31075@box.my.domain> Just to let you know that I have 4.4 installed and working on the 350mhz machine. It didn't have the installboot problem, so problem must be specific to the main machine (1.2 Duron). Mike From webmaster at bennettconstruction.us Sat Oct 25 01:12:26 2008 From: webmaster at bennettconstruction.us (Chris Bennett) Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:12:26 -0500 Subject: problem with 4.4 installboot In-Reply-To: <20081024202353.GA31075@box.my.domain> References: <4900CF30.4010007@cableone.net> <20081023193333.M50823@jggimi.homeip.net> <4900D812.2040407@cableone.net> <20081024093242.GA9502@jggimi.homeip.net> <20081024111110.M1287@jggimi.homeip.net> <4901C504.6050102@cableone.net> <20081024130211.M61281@jggimi.homeip.net> <4901CC78.80206@cableone.net> <20081024133330.M63728@jggimi.homeip.net> <4901D19D.8040600@cableone.net> <20081024202353.GA31075@box.my.domain> Message-ID: <4902565A.3060908@bennettconstruction.us> You could have a bad drive cable. I've had that problem several times. Chris Michael wrote: > Just to let you know that I have 4.4 installed and working on the 350mhz machine. It didn't have the installboot problem, so problem must be specific to the main machine (1.2 Duron). > > Mike > > _______________________________________________ > Openbsd-newbies mailing list > Openbsd-newbies at sfobug.org > http://mailman.theapt.org/listinfo/openbsd-newbies > > > From bsd4me at cableone.net Sat Oct 25 02:33:39 2008 From: bsd4me at cableone.net (Michael) Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:33:39 -0600 Subject: problem with 4.4 installboot In-Reply-To: <4902565A.3060908@bennettconstruction.us> References: <4900D812.2040407@cableone.net> <20081024093242.GA9502@jggimi.homeip.net> <20081024111110.M1287@jggimi.homeip.net> <4901C504.6050102@cableone.net> <20081024130211.M61281@jggimi.homeip.net> <4901CC78.80206@cableone.net> <20081024133330.M63728@jggimi.homeip.net> <4901D19D.8040600@cableone.net> <20081024202353.GA31075@box.my.domain> <4902565A.3060908@bennettconstruction.us> Message-ID: <20081025003338.GA21513@box.my.domain> Yeah, I've had to change mine a time or two also, but beings that everything other than the installboot part installed ok, and when using the 4.3 cd it worked, I not sure that the cable is the problem. On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 06:12:26PM -0500, Chris Bennett wrote: > You could have a bad drive cable. I've had that problem several times. > Chris > > Michael wrote: > >Just to let you know that I have 4.4 installed and working on the 350mhz > >machine. It didn't have the installboot problem, so problem must be > >specific to the main machine (1.2 Duron). > > > >Mike > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Openbsd-newbies mailing list > >Openbsd-newbies at sfobug.org > >http://mailman.theapt.org/listinfo/openbsd-newbies > > > > > > From brakeb at gmail.com Tue Oct 28 03:27:44 2008 From: brakeb at gmail.com (Bryan) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 18:27:44 -0800 Subject: power down USB Message-ID: <6532b7c80810271927s2062fd17t6da6f4054caca71b@mail.gmail.com> I have an ALIX box with two USB ports on it. I plugged in an external, bus powered 160 GB drive. Here is a scenario of what I'd like to do: 1. I plug in the drive, OpenBSD senses the drive in the USB hub, and I can mount it. Leave for work. 2. I'm at work. I SSH in to the server, and mount the drive. I transfer items off of it, and am done with the box. 3. I realize that leaving my little bus powered drive running all the time will only be detrimental, so I umount the drive, and issue a command that allows me to power off the USB port/hub it is plugged into, so as to save the drive. 4. Later, I realize I need to put something on the portable drive, so I SSH in and issue a command to power up the USB hub. OpenBSD re-senses the drive, and I can re-mount it. Is this scenario possible with openbsd without console access, or rebooting the server? Cause, you know, it would be nice to have... I did read the name pages for usbhidctl(1), usbhidaction(1), uhid(4), uhidev(4), and usb(4). Nothing mentioned power control... Regards, Bryan Brake From ciurdar at hotmail.com Tue Oct 28 18:11:12 2008 From: ciurdar at hotmail.com (Szilveszter Ciurdar) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:11:12 -0400 Subject: power down USB In-Reply-To: <6532b7c80810271927s2062fd17t6da6f4054caca71b@mail.gmail.com> References: <6532b7c80810271927s2062fd17t6da6f4054caca71b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I have a SATA drive in an ventilated external USB enclosure connected 24/7 to a NSLU2 running Debian arm (soon to be armel). It has the filesystem on it so it stays on all the time. It has been up for a few months and I only reboot it after flashing the kernel. I don't forsee any problems of leaving it on all the time. I also have an ALIX embedded firewall from Netgate with the intention of running OpenBSD on it. I got it configured with pfsense since I don't have a CF reader yet. From the pfsense webgui, I noticed that you can send Wake-on-LAN packets to machines on your network. I'm going to be able to turn on my fast OpenBSD testbox this way and not have to leave it running all the time. Is it possible to send WOL packets in OpenBSD? If you have a similar setup, you can keep the drive in another machine with a WOL enabled NIC and use it on demand. > Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 18:27:44 -0800 > From: brakeb at gmail.com > To: openbsd-newbies at sfobug.org > Subject: power down USB > > I have an ALIX box with two USB ports on it. I plugged in an > external, bus powered 160 GB drive. > > Here is a scenario of what I'd like to do: > > 1. I plug in the drive, OpenBSD senses the drive in the USB hub, and I > can mount it. Leave for work. > 2. I'm at work. I SSH in to the server, and mount the drive. I > transfer items off of it, and am done with the box. > 3. I realize that leaving my little bus powered drive running all the > time will only be detrimental, so I umount the drive, and issue a > command that allows me to power off the USB port/hub it is plugged > into, so as to save the drive. > 4. Later, I realize I need to put something on the portable drive, so > I SSH in and issue a command to power up the USB hub. OpenBSD > re-senses the drive, and I can re-mount it. > > Is this scenario possible with openbsd without console access, or > rebooting the server? Cause, you know, it would be nice to have... > > I did read the name pages for usbhidctl(1), usbhidaction(1), uhid(4), > uhidev(4), and usb(4). Nothing mentioned power control... > > Regards, > Bryan Brake > _______________________________________________ > Openbsd-newbies mailing list > Openbsd-newbies at sfobug.org > http://mailman.theapt.org/listinfo/openbsd-newbies -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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