From davidianwalker at gmail.com Fri Oct 1 01:24:26 2010 From: davidianwalker at gmail.com (David Walker) Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 08:54:26 +0930 Subject: IMAP or POP and SMTPD Message-ID: Hiya. I'm in the process of setting up a few domains on OpenBSD. This means DNS, Apache and email. I've climbed the DNS and Apache mountains and currently climbing up the mail summit. I've never done this before and have a few questions. I'm pretty sure I want to use OpenSMTPD - it seems to be the future and simple enough for me. I've spent some time reading the man pages and looking at the misc archives but if there's a pressing reason not to use it I'm ears (okay it's not production ready but this is a hobby box ... and 4.8 is a few weeks away). I expect a handful of clients at remote locations to use an email client (either Thunderbird or most likely Outlook) to be able to access their mail on the server (received from the internet) and to able to send mail through the server. As far as I understand it I have a choice of POP or IMAP and that POP does not synchronize changes from the client onto the server whereas IMAP can. Does this affect whether I need to install any other software? I.e. if I use POP can I get away with smtpd on it's own or do I need to install other software? If I use IMAP do I need to install other software? I notice there are two different methods of storing mail on the server, either in an mbox (where email to a user is a concatenated text file) or to a maildir where emails are individual files. As far as I understand it, smtpd will output in either of these ways. Apart from the robustness point of view, do either of these two affect whether POP or IMAP is used by clients? Do either of these (mbox or maildir) affect whether I need to use additional software? I think I can do the incoming mail configuration but I'm not sure (conceptually) how to do outgoing. Unless I make an open relay I need some way to authenticate users (and also authenticate them access their "inbox" to read their mail). I notice there's a secrets database that's used to authenticate from the OpenBSD box to an external server (gmail for instance). Can it also be used to authenticate external mail clients "logging in" to read their mail and to send mail through the OpenBSD server? Failing that I would need to setup user accounts that are tied down to a maildir with mail sending priviliges, correct? I know that there are other programs I should be contending with (spamd for example) to keep the load off and do virus scanning (via procmail maybe) and whatnot. It will probably be an uphill battle for me and I'll content myself with being able to at least get legitimate mail through and accessible for the time being. If it's at all possible to do this with one set of manpages to read I might have a fighting chance and get to the other stuff later. Please let me know if I'm on the moving in the right direction. Best wishes. From davidianwalker at gmail.com Fri Oct 1 08:32:30 2010 From: davidianwalker at gmail.com (David Walker) Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 16:02:30 +0930 Subject: IMAP or POP and SMTPD Message-ID: Hi Szilveszter, On 01/10/2010, Szilveszter Ciurdar wrote: > > Hi, > > OpenSMTPD is an MTA (sendmail, qmail, postfix are others) so it routes mail > to other mail servers until it reaches the destination's domain's > mailserver. Cool. The more I hear these terms the better. MTA is Mail Transfer Agent. I have seen that a lot of people use either sendmail or postfix and I think I've seen recommendations to use qmail and maybe something called exim. I do know that sendmail at the moment is the default MTA on OpenBSD (I have to change this in rc.conf.local to get smtpd cracking and also edit /etc/mailer.conf as per the smtpd man page). > Once there, I think you also need to install Courier or Dovecot > to serve it to people's Maildirs. So even though smtpd has this - smtpd.conf(5) ... deliver to maildir path Mail is added to a maildir. Its location, path, may contain format specifiers that are expanded before use (see above). If path is not provided, then ~/Maildir is assumed. deliver to mbox Mail is delivered to the local user's system mailbox in /var/mail. ... these are not the same in terms of maildir or mbox as far as the end user is concerned? > IMAP is preferred since you can have a > laptop and desktop with Thunderbird (MUA) and your mail will be in sync. > With POP, you run the risk of some guy pulling his email off the server and > saving it locally. Yep I spent a few hours reading here and there about POP and IMAP. I haven't used an email client in years (I'm a gmailer) but I remember I used to have choice. > Here is a good guide using Postfix: > http://www.kernel-panic.it/openbsd/mail/ Yes, I've been through that more than once. It's difficult to keep attention. I try to absorb it so I can figure out how I can transfer that to smtpd. It's very specific though. I'm reading it again. > Use what you know. Unfortunately (surely it's obvious) I know very little. I am trying hard to figure out if I can do what I want with smtpd or whether I need to use other programs. Learning how to do things with procmail or whatnot and then findng out I didn't need to will probably only add to the confusion. To me it seems like it could be very simple - I could accept mail via smtpd and deliver it to maildir or mbox via smtpd and then authenticate users via smtpd (or via an OpenBSD account tied to /var/mail/user). Etcetera. Simple right? Best wishes. - Hide quoted text - >> Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 08:54:26 +0930 >> Subject: IMAP or POP and SMTPD >> From: davidianwalker at gmail.com >> To: openbsd-newbies at sfobug.org >> >> Hiya. >> >> I'm in the process of setting up a few domains on OpenBSD. >> This means DNS, Apache and email. >> I've climbed the DNS and Apache mountains and currently climbing up >> the mail summit. >> I've never done this before and have a few questions. >> >> I'm pretty sure I want to use OpenSMTPD - it seems to be the future >> and simple enough for me. I've spent some time reading the man pages >> and looking at the misc archives but if there's a pressing reason not >> to use it I'm ears (okay it's not production ready but this is a hobby >> box ... and 4.8 is a few weeks away). >> >> I expect a handful of clients at remote locations to use an email >> client (either Thunderbird or most likely Outlook) to be able to >> access their mail on the server (received from the internet) and to >> able to send mail through the server. >> >> As far as I understand it I have a choice of POP or IMAP and that POP >> does not synchronize changes from the client onto the server whereas >> IMAP can. >> Does this affect whether I need to install any other software? >> I.e. if I use POP can I get away with smtpd on it's own or do I need >> to install other software? >> If I use IMAP do I need to install other software? >> >> I notice there are two different methods of storing mail on the >> server, either in an mbox (where email to a user is a concatenated >> text file) or to a maildir where emails are individual files. >> As far as I understand it, smtpd will output in either of these ways. >> Apart from the robustness point of view, do either of these two affect >> whether POP or IMAP is used by clients? >> Do either of these (mbox or maildir) affect whether I need to use >> additional software? >> >> I think I can do the incoming mail configuration but I'm not sure >> (conceptually) how to do outgoing. >> Unless I make an open relay I need some way to authenticate users (and >> also authenticate them access their "inbox" to read their mail). >> I notice there's a secrets database that's used to authenticate from >> the OpenBSD box to an external server (gmail for instance). >> Can it also be used to authenticate external mail clients "logging in" >> to read their mail and to send mail through the OpenBSD server? >> Failing that I would need to setup user accounts that are tied down to >> a maildir with mail sending priviliges, correct? >> >> I know that there are other programs I should be contending with >> (spamd for example) to keep the load off and do virus scanning (via >> procmail maybe) and whatnot. >> It will probably be an uphill battle for me and I'll content myself >> with being able to at least get legitimate mail through and accessible >> for the time being. >> If it's at all possible to do this with one set of manpages to read I >> might have a fighting chance and get to the other stuff later. >> Please let me know if I'm on the moving in the right direction. >> >> Best wishes. >> _______________________________________________ >> Openbsd-newbies mailing list >> Openbsd-newbies at sfobug.org >> http://mailman.theapt.org/listinfo/openbsd-newbies > From davidianwalker at gmail.com Fri Oct 1 17:21:15 2010 From: davidianwalker at gmail.com (David Walker) Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2010 00:51:15 +0930 Subject: IMAP or POP and SMTPD In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: Hiya Szilveszter. On 01/10/2010, Szilveszter Ciurdar wrote: > > Yes, exim is another one (default MTA on debian). You can skip the > Courier/Dovecot step...I didn't know OpenSMTPD had that feature. So, I might be right in thinking that smtpd can put mail into the "usual" place where people access it. If it can then that keeps things simpler. > That's probably mbox format in /var/mail. The location can vary depending on > OS...such as /var/spool/mail. I've got the idea that the spool is for the queue of mail actively being processed (maybe incoming but certainly outgoing). At least that's the way I read it. In other words on OpenBSD mail that has been processed always goes to maildir or mbox but mail that's waiting to be sent (or received as well maybe) has a copy sitting in the spool. I do know that Windows has a spool for printing and it's the queue of active jobs that fills up and empties as print jobs are done. Once all jobs are done the spool is empty and if there's a job that hasn't completed (might be stuck) the first place to check is the spool. > Each user has one file with all their mail > inside, sort of like a database. With Maildirs, it is more like a directory > structure where you can see individual messages inside (may not be > human-readable). Yep. I had a look earlier and the mbox seems to be a text file with email for one user collected in the file. It looks like plain text. For instance if I look at /var/mail I see a file called root which contains mail for me. It's a header followed by a body and then another header followed by a body and so on. If I login as root and type "mail" I see a list of what looks to be the exact same headers which I can use to read each individual message. Presumably this list comes from the aforementioned text file. > > I don't know procmail. I think most people use it to filter their mail. > You can do this with Thunderbird too. Since, most people are attached to > using a web interface to check their mail, you could also install > SquirrelMail or RoundCube Webmail. Yes I saw a recommendation to choose RoundCube for it's appealing interface (it does look nice). I used to use SquirrelMail years ago. It's reasonably functional and was one of my thoughts for what I would do. Then again, I'll avoid any software I don't specifically have to use. Best wishes. > >> Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 16:02:30 +0930 >> Subject: Re: IMAP or POP and SMTPD >> From: davidianwalker at gmail.com >> To: openbsd-newbies at sfobug.org >> >> Hi Szilveszter, >> >> On 01/10/2010, Szilveszter Ciurdar wrote: >> > >> > Hi, >> > >> > OpenSMTPD is an MTA (sendmail, qmail, postfix are others) so it routes >> > mail >> > to other mail servers until it reaches the destination's domain's >> > mailserver. >> >> Cool. The more I hear these terms the better. >> MTA is Mail Transfer Agent. >> >> I have seen that a lot of people use either sendmail or postfix and I >> think I've seen recommendations to use qmail and maybe something >> called exim. >> I do know that sendmail at the moment is the default MTA on OpenBSD (I >> have to change this in rc.conf.local to get smtpd cracking and also >> edit /etc/mailer.conf as per the smtpd man page). >> >> > Once there, I think you also need to install Courier or Dovecot >> > to serve it to people's Maildirs. >> >> So even though smtpd has this - smtpd.conf(5) ... >> deliver to maildir path >> Mail is added to a maildir. Its location, path, may >> contain format specifiers that are expanded before use >> (see above). If path is not provided, then ~/Maildir >> is >> assumed. >> >> deliver to mbox >> Mail is delivered to the local user's system mailbox >> in >> /var/mail. >> ... these are not the same in terms of maildir or mbox as far as the >> end user is concerned? >> >> > IMAP is preferred since you can have a >> > laptop and desktop with Thunderbird (MUA) and your mail will be in sync. >> > With POP, you run the risk of some guy pulling his email off the server >> > and >> > saving it locally. >> >> Yep I spent a few hours reading here and there about POP and IMAP. >> I haven't used an email client in years (I'm a gmailer) but I remember >> I used to have choice. >> >> > Here is a good guide using Postfix: >> > http://www.kernel-panic.it/openbsd/mail/ >> >> Yes, I've been through that more than once. >> It's difficult to keep attention. I try to absorb it so I can figure >> out how I can transfer that to smtpd. It's very specific though. I'm >> reading it again. >> >> > Use what you know. >> >> Unfortunately (surely it's obvious) I know very little. >> >> I am trying hard to figure out if I can do what I want with smtpd or >> whether I need to use other programs. >> Learning how to do things with procmail or whatnot and then findng out >> I didn't need to will probably only add to the confusion. >> To me it seems like it could be very simple - I could accept mail via >> smtpd and deliver it to maildir or mbox via smtpd and then >> authenticate users via smtpd (or via an OpenBSD account tied to >> /var/mail/user). Etcetera. >> Simple right? >> >> Best wishes. >> >> - Hide quoted text - >> >> >> Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 08:54:26 +0930 >> >> Subject: IMAP or POP and SMTPD >> >> From: davidianwalker at gmail.com >> >> To: openbsd-newbies at sfobug.org >> >> >> >> Hiya. >> >> >> >> I'm in the process of setting up a few domains on OpenBSD. >> >> This means DNS, Apache and email. >> >> I've climbed the DNS and Apache mountains and currently climbing up >> >> the mail summit. >> >> I've never done this before and have a few questions. >> >> >> >> I'm pretty sure I want to use OpenSMTPD - it seems to be the future >> >> and simple enough for me. I've spent some time reading the man pages >> >> and looking at the misc archives but if there's a pressing reason not >> >> to use it I'm ears (okay it's not production ready but this is a hobby >> >> box ... and 4.8 is a few weeks away). >> >> >> >> I expect a handful of clients at remote locations to use an email >> >> client (either Thunderbird or most likely Outlook) to be able to >> >> access their mail on the server (received from the internet) and to >> >> able to send mail through the server. >> >> >> >> As far as I understand it I have a choice of POP or IMAP and that POP >> >> does not synchronize changes from the client onto the server whereas >> >> IMAP can. >> >> Does this affect whether I need to install any other software? >> >> I.e. if I use POP can I get away with smtpd on it's own or do I need >> >> to install other software? >> >> If I use IMAP do I need to install other software? >> >> >> >> I notice there are two different methods of storing mail on the >> >> server, either in an mbox (where email to a user is a concatenated >> >> text file) or to a maildir where emails are individual files. >> >> As far as I understand it, smtpd will output in either of these ways. >> >> Apart from the robustness point of view, do either of these two affect >> >> whether POP or IMAP is used by clients? >> >> Do either of these (mbox or maildir) affect whether I need to use >> >> additional software? >> >> >> >> I think I can do the incoming mail configuration but I'm not sure >> >> (conceptually) how to do outgoing. >> >> Unless I make an open relay I need some way to authenticate users (and >> >> also authenticate them access their "inbox" to read their mail). >> >> I notice there's a secrets database that's used to authenticate from >> >> the OpenBSD box to an external server (gmail for instance). >> >> Can it also be used to authenticate external mail clients "logging in" >> >> to read their mail and to send mail through the OpenBSD server? >> >> Failing that I would need to setup user accounts that are tied down to >> >> a maildir with mail sending priviliges, correct? >> >> >> >> I know that there are other programs I should be contending with >> >> (spamd for example) to keep the load off and do virus scanning (via >> >> procmail maybe) and whatnot. >> >> It will probably be an uphill battle for me and I'll content myself >> >> with being able to at least get legitimate mail through and accessible >> >> for the time being. >> >> If it's at all possible to do this with one set of manpages to read I >> >> might have a fighting chance and get to the other stuff later. >> >> Please let me know if I'm on the moving in the right direction. >> >> >> >> Best wishes. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Openbsd-newbies mailing list >> >> Openbsd-newbies at sfobug.org >> >> http://mailman.theapt.org/listinfo/openbsd-newbies >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> Openbsd-newbies mailing list >> Openbsd-newbies at sfobug.org >> http://mailman.theapt.org/listinfo/openbsd-newbies > From lists at rensseltucky.com Sun Oct 24 03:23:27 2010 From: lists at rensseltucky.com (Ed D.) Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2010 21:23:27 -0400 Subject: Sends IP address when it changes Message-ID: <4CC38A8F.26889.60276EC@lists.rensseltucky.com> Hi Eveybody, I have an AMD64 based OpenBSD 4.6 system in another town that's on a DSL account with a dynamically allocated IP address. The DSL provider uses standard DHCP to allocate the address, and I just use a dumb modem, so the DHCP session is done by my OpenBSD box. Back home at my base location I have a static IP and an OpenBSD based network with web and mail server. QUESTION: is there a way for my remote OpenBSD box in the other town, to send me it's new IP address when it updates it's IP address during a DHCP session? Or any other way that i can know when it's IP address changes and what the new one is? From kousue at gmail.com Sun Oct 24 05:35:14 2010 From: kousue at gmail.com (Nick Guenther) Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2010 23:35:14 -0400 Subject: Sends IP address when it changes In-Reply-To: <4CC38A8F.26889.60276EC@lists.rensseltucky.com> References: <4CC38A8F.26889.60276EC@lists.rensseltucky.com> Message-ID: On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 9:23 PM, Ed D. wrote: > Hi Eveybody, > ? ? ?I have an AMD64 based OpenBSD 4.6 system in another town that's > on a DSL account with a dynamically allocated IP address. > > The DSL provider uses standard DHCP to allocate the address, and > I just use a dumb modem, > so the DHCP session is done by my ?OpenBSD box. > > Back home at my base location I have a static IP and an > OpenBSD based network with web and mail server. > > QUESTION: is there a way for my remote OpenBSD box > in the other town, to send me it's new IP address when it updates > it's IP address during a DHCP session? > > Or any other way that i can know when it's IP address changes and > what the new one is? You should register a dyndns account! There's lots of providers that will give you this, with simple interfaces. I use zoneedit and I just use this script run from cron to update my address: $ cat bin/zoneclient.sh #!/bin/sh #dynamically update our zoneedit nameservers #this script is meant to be able to run any number of times in a row: #it will only actually talk to zoneedit if our IP changes #(well, it talks to zoneedit to find out our IP) USER=NNg6 PASS="xxxxxx" #make this a comma-delimited list of domains to update ZONES="kousu.ca zilliah.ca pulsebitten.ca" update_zone(){ zone=$1; echo $zone; echo `lynx -source -auth=$USER:$PASS "http://dynamic.zoneedit.com/auth/dynamic.html?host=$zone"`; logger -p daemon.info -t zoneedit "Updating $zone"; } update(){ echo "Updating zones"; for zone in $ZONES; do #it would be nice if we could use SSL here, but lynx is a retard and has no way of, in -source mode, letting you tell it to accept certificates RESP=`update_zone $zone` logger -p daemon.info -t zoneedit "IP update-attempt for $zone: $RESP"; done; } update; <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Alternately, secretly mail(1) is awesome! You could just do something like this: IP=`ifconfig | grep "inet " | cut -f 2 -d " " | grep -v "127"`' #this extracts, flakily, our external address from ifconfig OLD=`cat current_ip.txt` # #alternately, if you're behind a router, this is a bit more flakey but will work #ftp -o ip.txt http://www.showmyip.com/simple/ #IP=`cat ip.txt`; rm ip.txt if [ x"$OLD" != x"$IP" ]; then echo $IP > current_ip.txt; mail -s "New IP: $IP" you at yours.com fi and put that script in cron. Hope that helps! -Nick From phessler at theapt.org Sun Oct 24 11:17:04 2010 From: phessler at theapt.org (Peter Hessler) Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2010 11:17:04 +0200 Subject: Sends IP address when it changes In-Reply-To: <4CC38A8F.26889.60276EC@lists.rensseltucky.com> References: <4CC38A8F.26889.60276EC@lists.rensseltucky.com> Message-ID: <20101024091703.GN737@gir.theapt.org> You can setup a script in dhclient.conf, which will run every time dhclient gets a lease. check the man pages for dhclient-script and dhclient.conf. On 2010 Oct 23 (Sat) at 21:23:27 -0400 (-0400), Ed D. wrote: :Hi Eveybody, : I have an AMD64 based OpenBSD 4.6 system in another town that's :on a DSL account with a dynamically allocated IP address. : :The DSL provider uses standard DHCP to allocate the address, and :I just use a dumb modem, :so the DHCP session is done by my OpenBSD box. : :Back home at my base location I have a static IP and an :OpenBSD based network with web and mail server. : :QUESTION: is there a way for my remote OpenBSD box :in the other town, to send me it's new IP address when it updates :it's IP address during a DHCP session? : :Or any other way that i can know when it's IP address changes and :what the new one is? :_______________________________________________ :Openbsd-newbies mailing list :Openbsd-newbies at sfobug.org :http://mailman.theapt.org/listinfo/openbsd-newbies -- McGowan's Madison Avenue Axiom: If an item is advertised as "under $50", you can bet it's not $19.95. From lists at rensseltucky.com Wed Oct 27 19:40:01 2010 From: lists at rensseltucky.com (Ed D.) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 13:40:01 -0400 Subject: Sends IP address when it changes In-Reply-To: <20101024091703.GN737@gir.theapt.org> References: <4CC38A8F.26889.60276EC@lists.rensseltucky.com>, <20101024091703.GN737@gir.theapt.org> Message-ID: <4CC863F1.32140.4C665C6@lists.rensseltucky.com> Peter, Thanks for the reply. I waited to respond until I had a chance to sit down and mess with this. I went into this with the understanding that I can use the dhclient-script file to run my own scripts in. I tried and experiment to see if I can get a simple test script to run and I haven't had any luck. In dhclient.conf I added : interface "vr0" { script "/etc/dhclient-script"; } In dhclient-script I added echo 'this is a test' > testecho dhclient-script had permissions 744 My output was: # sh /etc/netstart execve (/etc/dhclient-script, ...): Exec format error exiting. DHCPREQUEST on vr0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 DHCPACK from 67.236.64.1 (00:30:88:03:62:b5) bound to 67.236.124.195 -- renewal in 1800 seconds. AM WRONG in the idea that I can run shell scripts in dhclient-script? My idea had been to run # ifconfig vr0 > presentIP then email presentIP back to me. thanks, Ed On 24 Oct 2010 at 11:17, Peter Hessler wrote: > You can setup a script in dhclient.conf, which will run every time > dhclient gets a lease. > > check the man pages for dhclient-script and dhclient.conf. > > > > On 2010 Oct 23 (Sat) at 21:23:27 -0400 (-0400), Ed D. wrote: > :Hi Eveybody, > : I have an AMD64 based OpenBSD 4.6 system in another town that's > :on a DSL account with a dynamically allocated IP address. : :The DSL > provider uses standard DHCP to allocate the address, and :I just use a > dumb modem, :so the DHCP session is done by my OpenBSD box. : :Back > home at my base location I have a static IP and an :OpenBSD based > network with web and mail server. : :QUESTION: is there a way for my > remote OpenBSD box :in the other town, to send me it's new IP address > when it updates :it's IP address during a DHCP session? : :Or any other > way that i can know when it's IP address changes and :what the new one > is? : From bsd4me at cableone.net Sat Oct 30 14:02:59 2010 From: bsd4me at cableone.net (Michael) Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 06:02:59 -0600 Subject: 4.8 torrents Message-ID: <20101030120259.GB22953@getlost.my.domain> hi all. When 4.8 is released, will a torrent be released at the same time? If so, is the location primarily http://openbsd.somedomain.net/ ? I have a machine set up just for torrents, so I want it ready to go when 4.8 is released. Then I can let the machine run and upgrade this machine from 4.6. Thanks, Mike From c.zakelj at ieee.org Sat Oct 30 18:34:26 2010 From: c.zakelj at ieee.org (Chris Zakelj) Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 12:34:26 -0400 Subject: 4.8 torrents In-Reply-To: <20101030120259.GB22953@getlost.my.domain> References: <20101030120259.GB22953@getlost.my.domain> Message-ID: Why not just order the CD? In addition to the base OS, you get a couple of the most commonly installed ports, the entire source tree, some (sometimes) neat stickers, all of this before it's released to the general populace. Plus, you'll be helping to pay the bills ;) On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 8:02 AM, Michael wrote: > > hi all. > When 4.8 is released, will a torrent be released at the same time? > If so, is the location primarily http://openbsd.somedomain.net/ ? > I have a machine set up just for torrents, so I want it ready to go when > 4.8 is released. > Then I can let the machine run and upgrade this machine from 4.6. > > Thanks, > Mike > _______________________________________________ > Openbsd-newbies mailing list > Openbsd-newbies at sfobug.org > http://mailman.theapt.org/listinfo/openbsd-newbies > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bsd4me at cableone.net Sat Oct 30 19:34:06 2010 From: bsd4me at cableone.net (Michael) Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 11:34:06 -0600 Subject: 4.8 torrents In-Reply-To: References: <20101030120259.GB22953@getlost.my.domain> Message-ID: <20101030173406.GD22953@getlost.my.domain> * Chris Zakelj [2010-10-30 12:34:26 -0400]: > Why not just order the CD? In addition to the base OS, you get a couple of > the most commonly installed ports, the entire source tree, some (sometimes) > neat stickers, all of this before it's released to the general populace. > Plus, you'll be helping to pay the bills ;) > > On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 8:02 AM, Michael wrote: > > > > > hi all. > > When 4.8 is released, will a torrent be released at the same time? > > If so, is the location primarily http://openbsd.somedomain.net/ ? > > I have a machine set up just for torrents, so I want it ready to go when > > 4.8 is released. > > Then I can let the machine run and upgrade this machine from 4.6. > > > > Thanks, > > Mike > > _______________________________________________ > > Openbsd-newbies mailing list > > Openbsd-newbies at sfobug.org > > http://mailman.theapt.org/listinfo/openbsd-newbies > > > _______________________________________________ > Openbsd-newbies mailing list > Openbsd-newbies at sfobug.org > http://mailman.theapt.org/listinfo/openbsd-newbies I've been buying the cd's when I could. I have a stack of them, however, I've been out of work for over 1 yr now. -- a balanced diet is chocolate in both hands From phessler at openbsd.org Sat Oct 30 23:19:07 2010 From: phessler at openbsd.org (Peter Hessler) Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 23:19:07 +0200 Subject: 4.8 torrents In-Reply-To: <20101030120259.GB22953@getlost.my.domain> References: <20101030120259.GB22953@getlost.my.domain> Message-ID: <20101030211906.GD737@gir.theapt.org> Torrent's are not officially released by OpenBSD. Any torrents you find are created (or uploaded) by others, and may or may not match what is shipped on a release CD. However, there is an 'install48.iso' file that will be uploaded to the ftp mirrors for you to fetch. Pick your favorite (if you avoid ftp.openbsd.org and ftp.usa.openbsd.org, you'll get good speeds) and download away. On 2010 Oct 30 (Sat) at 06:02:59 -0600 (-0600), Michael wrote: : :hi all. :When 4.8 is released, will a torrent be released at the same time? :If so, is the location primarily http://openbsd.somedomain.net/ ? :I have a machine set up just for torrents, so I want it ready to go when 4.8 is released. :Then I can let the machine run and upgrade this machine from 4.6. : :Thanks, :Mike -- A new dramatist of the absurd Has a voice that will shortly be heard. I learn from my spies He's about to devise An unprintable three-letter word. From bsd4me at cableone.net Sat Oct 30 23:55:03 2010 From: bsd4me at cableone.net (Michael) Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 15:55:03 -0600 Subject: 4.8 torrents In-Reply-To: <20101030211906.GD737@gir.theapt.org> References: <20101030120259.GB22953@getlost.my.domain> <20101030211906.GD737@gir.theapt.org> Message-ID: <20101030215503.GE22953@getlost.my.domain> ok, thanks Peter. Looking forward to tomorrow night :) Mike * Peter Hessler [2010-10-30 23:19:07 +0200]: > Torrent's are not officially released by OpenBSD. Any torrents you find > are created (or uploaded) by others, and may or may not match what is > shipped on a release CD. > > However, there is an 'install48.iso' file that will be uploaded to the > ftp mirrors for you to fetch. Pick your favorite (if you avoid > ftp.openbsd.org and ftp.usa.openbsd.org, you'll get good speeds) and > download away. > > > On 2010 Oct 30 (Sat) at 06:02:59 -0600 (-0600), Michael wrote: > : > :hi all. > :When 4.8 is released, will a torrent be released at the same time? > :If so, is the location primarily http://openbsd.somedomain.net/ ? > :I have a machine set up just for torrents, so I want it ready to go when 4.8 is released. > :Then I can let the machine run and upgrade this machine from 4.6. > : > :Thanks, > :Mike > > > -- > A new dramatist of the absurd > Has a voice that will shortly be heard. > I learn from my spies > He's about to devise > An unprintable three-letter word. > _______________________________________________ > Openbsd-newbies mailing list > Openbsd-newbies at sfobug.org > http://mailman.theapt.org/listinfo/openbsd-newbies -- a balanced diet is chocolate in both hands