From afife at untangle.com Fri Aug 1 14:21:14 2008 From: afife at untangle.com (Andrew Fife) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 14:21:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Installfest for Schools (Next Week) Message-ID: <016b01c8f41c$87832680$96897380$@com> Hi Folks: This is a quick reminder that the Installfest for Schools in taking place on the expo floor at LinuxWorld next week (Tuesday, Wednesday & Thursday). We've got an ambitious goal of refurbishing 1,000 older/discarded computers with GNU/Linux for schools and we need all the help we can get. Here's how you can lend a hand: 1)Help install GNU/Linux (Ubuntu, Xubuntu, Edubuntu or gNewSense) 2)Help breakdown bad computers to identify reusable parts 3)Donate your old computer[1] -- ACCRC will have a collection booth and can provide tax deductable receipts 4)Know a school that needs computers and is willing to try GNU/Linux desktops? Please tell us here: http://www.untangle.com/index.php?option=com_collect&task=installfestNomin ate&Itemid=1426 Also, I'm pleased to announce a little help from our friends... Mozilla and Canonical/Ubuntu are donating schwag for installfest volunteers. Creative commons has packaged CC licensed and Ogg formatted multi-media content that will be placed on each system. And No Starch Press has made another extremely cool donation of a PDF copy of "Ubuntu for non-Geeks" for EVERY computer... What a great resource for newbies! Why the installfest is cool: 1)Digital Divide: Helps get computers to children/schools in need 2)F/OSS Outreach: Helps expose new users to Free & Open Source Software 3)Environment: Helps divert thousands of pounds of toxic electronic waste from the landfill 4)Community: Is a great cause to bring the community together around Lastly, don't forget to register for the LinuxWorld Expo. The passes are free if you register in advance, but $50 onsite. Register here: https://register.rcsreg.com/regos-1.0/lnsf2008/ga/index2.html Learn more about the installfest here: http://www.untangle.com/installfest Thanks so much for your help! -Andrew References & Notes: [1]PIII and newer systems will be refurbished with Ubuntu for schools. Older systems will be recycled properly by the ACCRC. Here is a writeup of the first event: http://lwn.net/Articles/273770/ and here are some pictures: http://www.untangle.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=355&Item id=139 -- Andrew Fife Untangle - The Open Source Network Gateway www.untangle.com/download 650.425.3327 desk 415.806.6028 cell -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.theapt.org/pipermail/sfobug/attachments/20080801/cf8d0bb8/attachment.html From jim at well.com Fri Aug 1 15:54:42 2008 From: jim at well.com (jim) Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 15:54:42 -0700 Subject: Help the LUG booth at LinuxWorld Message-ID: <1217631282.10905.554.camel@ubuntu> If you're coming to LinuxWorld, let me know if you can spend a little time at the common LUG booth in the .Org pavilion (booth #14). Coverage is still a little too light, we can use help on all days, Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday. Per Untangle's email re the installfest: Don't forget to register for the LinuxWorld Expo. The passes are free if you register in advance, but $50 onsite. Register here: https://register.rcsreg.com/regos-1.0/lnsf2008/ga/index2.html From phessler at theapt.org Sat Aug 2 16:48:32 2008 From: phessler at theapt.org (Peter Hessler) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 16:48:32 -0700 Subject: aug? Message-ID: <20080802234831.GS23261@gir.theapt.org> Hello everyone. It is now August, and time for our Annual August meet. However, this will be the last one that I can attend. I have accepted a job working for reyk@ at .vantronix, and will be moving to Germany in the middle of the month. As you probably (have not) noticed, our attendance has been very low for quite some time. Do we wish to continue the group? Regardless of what happens, I will continue to host the website (and more importantly) the mailing lists. -- Line Printer paper is strongest at the perforations. From jim at well.com Sat Aug 2 21:28:57 2008 From: jim at well.com (jim) Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2008 21:28:57 -0700 Subject: aug? In-Reply-To: <20080802234831.GS23261@gir.theapt.org> References: <20080802234831.GS23261@gir.theapt.org> Message-ID: <1217737737.10905.730.camel@ubuntu> linuxworld will be going on, with various evening, post-show events. for my part, it seems an interesting possibility that the sfobug meeting is so close by tuesday night. please let me know if you cancel, i hope not, for i plan to advertise the group meeting at the LUG booth (#14) in the .Org Pavilion. jim On Sat, 2008-08-02 at 16:48 -0700, Peter Hessler wrote: > Hello everyone. > > It is now August, and time for our Annual August meet. However, this > will be the last one that I can attend. I have accepted a job working > for reyk@ at .vantronix, and will be moving to Germany in the middle of > the month. > > As you probably (have not) noticed, our attendance has been very low for > quite some time. > > Do we wish to continue the group? > > > Regardless of what happens, I will continue to host the website (and > more importantly) the mailing lists. > From phessler at theapt.org Sat Aug 2 22:08:13 2008 From: phessler at theapt.org (Peter Hessler) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 22:08:13 -0700 Subject: aug? In-Reply-To: <20080802234831.GS23261@gir.theapt.org> References: <20080802234831.GS23261@gir.theapt.org> Message-ID: <20080803050813.GT23261@gir.theapt.org> Sounds like there was a little bit of confusion. Yes, the August meeting will be happening, I'll be at the Metreon Foot Court at 7pm, for the normal meeting. On 2008 Aug 02 (Sat) at 16:48:32 -0700 (-0700), Peter Hessler wrote: :Hello everyone. : :It is now August, and time for our Annual August meet. However, this :will be the last one that I can attend. I have accepted a job working :for reyk@ at .vantronix, and will be moving to Germany in the middle of :the month. : :As you probably (have not) noticed, our attendance has been very low for :quite some time. : :Do we wish to continue the group? : : :Regardless of what happens, I will continue to host the website (and :more importantly) the mailing lists. : :-- :Line Printer paper is strongest at the perforations. : -- If a camel is a horse designed by a committee, then a consensus forecast is a camel's behind. -- Edgar R. Fiedler From harley at panix.com Mon Aug 4 10:03:37 2008 From: harley at panix.com (Harley Gorrell) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 10:03:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: aug? In-Reply-To: <20080803050813.GT23261@gir.theapt.org> References: <20080802234831.GS23261@gir.theapt.org> <20080803050813.GT23261@gir.theapt.org> Message-ID: On Sat, 2 Aug 2008, Peter Hessler wrote: > Yes, the August meeting will be happening, I'll be at the Metreon Foot > Court at 7pm, for the normal meeting. Forgot to ask this sooner, but a days notice is better than none... The FSF is having a pizza party 6:30-9pm that night right down the street. (510 Brannan St.) Stallman will be there from 6:30-7pm. As much as I like our normal meeting, I would like to meet rms at least once. Would anyone care to join me? Maybe we could wear OpenBSD tshirts? harley. From adam at akarsoft.com Mon Aug 4 11:37:39 2008 From: adam at akarsoft.com (D. Adam Karim) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 11:37:39 -0700 Subject: aug? In-Reply-To: References: <20080802234831.GS23261@gir.theapt.org> <20080803050813.GT23261@gir.theapt.org> Message-ID: <0922F9CC-5C9E-423F-BF5E-EF5EABBCBC9D@akarsoft.com> That could be fun! D. Adam Karim On Aug 4, 2008, at 10:03 AM, Harley Gorrell wrote: > On Sat, 2 Aug 2008, Peter Hessler wrote: >> Yes, the August meeting will be happening, I'll be at the Metreon >> Foot >> Court at 7pm, for the normal meeting. > > Forgot to ask this sooner, but a days notice is better > than none... The FSF is having a pizza party 6:30-9pm that > night right down the street. (510 Brannan St.) Stallman > will be there from 6:30-7pm. > > As much as I like our normal meeting, I would like to > meet rms at least once. Would anyone care to join me? > Maybe we could wear OpenBSD tshirts? > > harley. > From phessler at theapt.org Mon Aug 4 11:40:03 2008 From: phessler at theapt.org (Peter Hessler) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 11:40:03 -0700 Subject: aug? In-Reply-To: References: <20080802234831.GS23261@gir.theapt.org> <20080803050813.GT23261@gir.theapt.org> Message-ID: <20080804184002.GZ23261@gir.theapt.org> On 2008 Aug 04 (Mon) at 10:03:37 -0700 (-0700), Harley Gorrell wrote: > On Sat, 2 Aug 2008, Peter Hessler wrote: >> Yes, the August meeting will be happening, I'll be at the Metreon Foot >> Court at 7pm, for the normal meeting. > > Forgot to ask this sooner, but a days notice is better > than none... The FSF is having a pizza party 6:30-9pm that > night right down the street. (510 Brannan St.) Stallman > will be there from 6:30-7pm. > > As much as I like our normal meeting, I would like to > meet rms at least once. Would anyone care to join me? > Maybe we could wear OpenBSD tshirts? > > harley. > I'm going to do SFOBUG first, but if we get out early, then I'm not opposed to swinging by. -- Lockwood's Long Shot: The chances of getting eaten up by a lion on Main Street aren't one in a million, but once would be enough. From harley at panix.com Mon Aug 4 11:44:47 2008 From: harley at panix.com (Harley Gorrell) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 11:44:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: aug? In-Reply-To: <20080804184002.GZ23261@gir.theapt.org> References: <20080802234831.GS23261@gir.theapt.org> <20080803050813.GT23261@gir.theapt.org> <20080804184002.GZ23261@gir.theapt.org> Message-ID: On Mon, 4 Aug 2008, Peter Hessler wrote: > I'm going to do SFOBUG first, but if we get out early, > then I'm not opposed to swinging by. Ok -- I will go to the FSF event and hope to see you there later in the evening. harley. From harley at panix.com Mon Aug 4 12:14:31 2008 From: harley at panix.com (Harley Gorrell) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 12:14:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: aug? In-Reply-To: <20080804184715.GS26770@entropia.netisland.net> References: <20080802234831.GS23261@gir.theapt.org> <20080803050813.GT23261@gir.theapt.org> <20080804184715.GS26770@entropia.netisland.net> Message-ID: On Mon, 4 Aug 2008, Michael C. Toren wrote: > Do you have a link to more information about the event? Just the posting to the fsf memebers list. [1] It should be an easy walk to get to the fsf event. [2] You may want to write and let them know you are coming so they can adjust the pizza order. [1] http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/info-member/2008-07/msg00004.html [2] http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=510+Brannan+St.,+sf,+ca&ie=UTF8&z=16&iwloc=addr harley. From phessler at theapt.org Mon Aug 4 12:16:20 2008 From: phessler at theapt.org (Peter Hessler) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 12:16:20 -0700 Subject: aug? In-Reply-To: <20080802234831.GS23261@gir.theapt.org> References: <20080802234831.GS23261@gir.theapt.org> Message-ID: <20080804191619.GA23261@gir.theapt.org> On 2008 Aug 02 (Sat) at 16:48:32 -0700 (-0700), Peter Hessler wrote: :Regardless of what happens, I will continue to host the website (and :more importantly) the mailing lists. To be more clear: openbsd-newbies will *not* be affected, nor will openbsd-nfsv4. Those lists will still go on, and I will continue to host them. -- Don't you feel more like you do now than you did when you came in? From mct at toren.net Mon Aug 4 11:47:15 2008 From: mct at toren.net (Michael C. Toren) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 11:47:15 -0700 Subject: aug? In-Reply-To: References: <20080802234831.GS23261@gir.theapt.org> <20080803050813.GT23261@gir.theapt.org> Message-ID: <20080804184715.GS26770@entropia.netisland.net> On Mon, Aug 04, 2008 at 10:03:37AM -0700, Harley Gorrell wrote: > Forgot to ask this sooner, but a days notice is better than none... > The FSF is having a pizza party 6:30-9pm that night right down the > street. (510 Brannan St.) Stallman will be there from 6:30-7pm. Do you have a link to more information about the event? Thanks, -mct From kristian.hermansen at gmail.com Mon Aug 4 13:36:03 2008 From: kristian.hermansen at gmail.com (Kristian Erik Hermansen) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 13:36:03 -0700 Subject: aug? In-Reply-To: References: <20080802234831.GS23261@gir.theapt.org> <20080803050813.GT23261@gir.theapt.org> Message-ID: On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 10:03 AM, Harley Gorrell wrote: > Forgot to ask this sooner, but a days notice is better > than none... The FSF is having a pizza party 6:30-9pm that > night right down the street. (510 Brannan St.) Stallman > will be there from 6:30-7pm. > > As much as I like our normal meeting, I would like to > meet rms at least once. Would anyone care to join me? > Maybe we could wear OpenBSD tshirts? That right next to my old apartment :-) You should be able to leech T3 speeds via wifi bandwidth in that area. Also, I informed my roommate Joe Gallo about the event, so he might show up too. I don't see why he wouldn't because he's at 430 Brannan, which means he could fall out of the loft apartment bay windows and into the pizza from there... :-P -- Kristian Erik Hermansen --- PUSH EBP, 0x55 From bradla at inbox.com Tue Aug 5 02:16:23 2008 From: bradla at inbox.com (Brad Arrington) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 01:16:23 -0800 Subject: atheros driver on new laptop does not work correctly help needed/requested Message-ID: <4B002CC783E.00000C2Bbradla@inbox.com> Hi, Is there anyone interested or do you know of anyone that could help me find and fix the bug with the builtin atheros wirless on my new laptop? I don't have much time to debug and I am not sure I even have the skill needed to complete the task. I am willing to pay for this work... I will need to know about how much it will cost first. I have sent this bug to bugs@ but no response... It has been a few weeks. Thanks, -Brad ____________________________________________________________ Receive Notifications of Incoming Messages Easily monitor multiple email accounts & access them with a click. Visit http://www.inbox.com/notifier and check it out! From phessler at theapt.org Tue Aug 5 07:24:50 2008 From: phessler at theapt.org (Peter Hessler) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 07:24:50 -0700 Subject: atheros driver on new laptop does not work correctly help needed/requested In-Reply-To: <4B002CC783E.00000C2Bbradla@inbox.com> References: <4B002CC783E.00000C2Bbradla@inbox.com> Message-ID: <20080805142450.GD23261@gir.theapt.org> bugs@ or misc@ would be far better mailing lists for this purpose. sfobug@ is primarily for organizing SFOBUG meetings. On 2008 Aug 05 (Tue) at 01:16:23 -0800 (-0800), Brad Arrington wrote: :Hi, : :Is there anyone interested or do you know of anyone that could help me find and fix :the bug with the builtin atheros wirless on my new laptop? : :I don't have much time to debug and I am not sure I even have the skill needed to :complete the task. : :I am willing to pay for this work... I will need to know about how much it will cost first. : :I have sent this bug to bugs@ but no response... It has been a few weeks. : :Thanks, :-Brad -- Some people are born mediocre, some people achieve mediocrity, and some people have mediocrity thrust upon them. -- Joseph Heller, "Catch-22" From afife at untangle.com Mon Aug 11 10:50:15 2008 From: afife at untangle.com (Andrew Fife) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 10:50:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Chris Dibona @ BALUG (8/19) Message-ID: <01da01c8fbda$bb9733b0$32c59b10$@com> Hi Folks: Chris Dibona will be speaking at BALUG next Tuesday (8/19). Chris DiBona is the open source programs manager at Mountain View, Ca. based Google, where his team oversees license compliance, promotes developer outreach, supports the open source community through programs such as the Google Summer of Code and oversees OSS releases on Google Code. (full bio below) So, if you'd like to join us please RSVP: RSVP at balug.org **Why RSVP??** Well, don't worry we won't turn you away, but the RSVPs really help the Four Seas Restaurant plan the meal and they ensure that we're able to eat upstairs in the private banquet room. Meeting Details... 6:30pm August 19th, 2008 (Next Tuesday) Four Seas Restaurant 731 Grant Ave. San Francisco, CA 94108 Easy $5 PARKING: Portsmouth Square Garage at 733 Kearny Cost: The meetings are always free, but dinner is $13 Chris Dibona's full bio: Chris DiBona is the open source programs manager at Mountain View, Ca. based Google, where his team oversees license compliance, promotes developer outreach, supports the open source community through programs such as the Google Summer of Code and oversees OSS releases on Google Code. Mr. DiBona is an internationally known advocate of open source software and related methodologies. He occasionally appears on the This Week in Tech and Cranky Geeks podcasts. He is a visiting scholar at the MIT Sloan School of Management and has a masters in software engineering from Carnegie Mellon University. Additionally, he serves on the advisory board of imeem, a San Francisco, Ca. based social networking firm. Before joining Google, Mr. DiBona was an editor and author for the website Slashdot.org . Additionally, he coedited the award-winning essay compilations "Open Sources" and "Open Sources 2.0" and writes for several publications. He was the host of Floss Weekly with Leo Laporte and made a number of appearances on TechTV's "The Screensavers" His personal blog can be found at http://dibona.com and he can be reached via email via chris at dibona.com -- Andrew Fife Untangle - The Open Source Network Gateway www.untangle.com/download 650.425.3327 desk 415.806.6028 cell -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.theapt.org/pipermail/sfobug/attachments/20080811/ec56c6c2/attachment.html From jim at well.com Tue Aug 12 17:20:53 2008 From: jim at well.com (jim) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 17:20:53 -0700 Subject: BayPIGgies meeting Thursday August 14, 2008: Scons by Steven Knight Message-ID: <1218586853.10905.1177.camel@ubuntu> bayPIGgies meeting Thursday August 14, 2008: Scons by Steven Knight SCons is a next-generation software build tool (that is, a replacement for Make) written in Python, with build configuration written as a Python API. Since the SCons Project was founded in 2001, it's grown into a successful project with about 7000 downloads / month and an especially strong following among software developers and build engineers working on large-scale, enterprise-quality software projects, including production use at VMware, Intel, Oracle, id Software, and Google. This talk will give a summary of the history and growth of the SCons project and an overview of SCons configuration. It will also discuss some of the more interesting aspects of SCons as a Python-based project, including why (and how) SCons still runs on Python 1.5.2, its rather distinctive approach to stringent software testing, and some of its ad-hoc solutions to the problem of trying to ship a stand-alone application that happens to be written in Python (as opposed to the distutils-installed-module model of most Python software). The talk will also include some frank discussion of SCons' limitations and problem areas, and what you (yes, you!) can do to help. About the speaker: Steven Knight has been a software engineer, executive, and would-be entrepreneur for more than 25 years at companies such as Cray Research, The MathWorks, and more networking-related startups than he can unashamedly admit. He founded the SCons Project in 2001 after its design won the Software Carpentry build tool competition the previous year. He recently transplanted to the Bay Area to work on software build issues for Google. The meeting starts with a Newbie Nugget, a short discussion of an essential Python feature, specially for those new to Python. Tonight's Newbie Nugget is... The Google App Engine: Magic Cars versus Taxis A look at what the Google App Engine delivers and how it fits into the ecosystem; getting up and running; the process of writing an application, GQL code; and some analogies, presented by Charles Merriam. Location: Google Campus Building 40, the Seville room (check in at the lobby in bldg 43) bayPIGgies meeting information: http://baypiggies.net/new/plone * Please sign up in advance to have your google access badge ready: http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggiesGoogleMeetings (no later than close of business on Wednesday.) Agenda ..... 7:30 PM ........................... General hubbub, inventory end-of-meeting announcements, any first-minute announcements. ..... 7:35 PM to 7:45 PM ................ Newbie Nugget Google App Engine by Charles Merriam ..... 7:45 PM to 8:45 PM ................ Scons by Steven Knight ..... 8:45 PM to 9:00 PM -- After The Talk ................ Mapping and Random Access Mapping is a rapid-fire audience announcement of topics the announcers are interested in. Random Access follows immediately to allow follow up individually on the announcements and other topics of interest. ..... Thursday, September 11 ................ 7:30 PM BayPIGgies Tim Thompson on Bay Area Computer Music Technology presentation on Finger Painting with Planets